SPECULATION The Official Leia Discussion Thread

Yes, but that's the beauty. Leia wouldn't have to be Queen, but could serve as Senator from the house of Amidala. Great idea!

 

there have been times in my life, and im hoping this is one of them, that I have thought so far outside the box that ive turned out to be right. Highly doubtfull in this case though.

 

I hope you're right too.

 

I think it would be fantastic to see Leia connect(ing) with her Naboo family roots. I'm sure they'd know that Anakin was her father, but whom among them might actually know that he was Vader too. I could see a nice blackmailing plot point come from something like this

 

That's actually pretty close to how I see it, too, in either VII (most likely) or VIII at the latest. The death that is. Still not sure about the estrangement, but Han never seemed like a "family" man.

 

Pretty sure Leia wouldn't want her family history to get out.

Her mother was the naive little Queen who allowed for Palpatine to rise to Chancellor.

Her father destroyed the Jedi Order and was instrumental in the downfall of the Republic and the oppression of the Empire.

And oh btw, everyone thought Padme was still pregnant when she died so she gets to explain all that (meaning she would have to explain why they tried to hide the existence of her birth, meaning Vader talk is unavoidable).

It's got to be much better for her, politically, to be known as the daughter of Senator Organa, a well respected leader of the Alliance. Not to mention she can play the "the empire blew up my planet" angle.

 

She might not want it getting out, but that doesn't mean it won't. Also, I could see a peaceful world like Naboo embracing Leia and family as Padme was well-respected and adored basically in Naboo's history. I don't think anyone hold anything against Leia for the rise of Palpatine.

 

OK, who's with me here: Who wants to see Leia use alittle force abilities and possibly wield a lightsaber in Episode7? I know many would say that a 60 year old Carrie Fisher wielding a lightsaber would be a train-wreck on screen, but if done right, it could be bad ass.

I don't think you have Leia having a full fledged lightsaber battle as that maybe too much. But it would be cool if she were with her daughter and they encounted a Sith Villain and she maybe uses her force abilities to throw an object like Vader did to Luke in ESB, and then have a quick lightsaber battle where her daughter steps in and says, "I'll take care of this one mom!"

 

I think each of the big 3 characters will be on a logical trajectory from E6. Leia is a politician. Han is commanding a large ship like a Star Destroyer or a fleet. Luke is a Jedi Knight engaged in a struggle against either Sith Lords or Sith minions.

Luke and Leia each have children that are force users. And hopefully Han and Leia are still together. I hate the idea of them splitting up.

There needs to be a scene with them all together on the screen at the same time, for old times sake. And I love Kyle's idea that Leia is keeping here ancestry a secret for political reasons. That's outstanding and could lead to some excellent plot points that are similar to Luke learning about his heritage. Perhaps they've lied to their children for their own protection, and someone else comes along and tells the truth like Vader did. hmm...

 

Leia has the potential to be as strong as Luke in the force, and she hadn't been tempted by the dark side, and....if she were swayed by the force that NEEDS balance.......hmmmmmm.

 

I've seen this talked about in other threads and thought that I'd start it's own thread.

Here are some things that I think are different from the old EU stories. It is in my opinion that Luke and Leia will keep their relationship a secret post ROTJ with Han being the only one to know they're siblings. I really don't think that anyone will know that Vader was they're Father, believing Anakin died in the attack on the Jedi temple by Vader, even though they are the same person. Or that Luke was to blame for the Emperor's death, or even on the death star during the Battle of Endor, nobody knows what happened in the throne room. The Emperor died in the explosion. If Daisy is Han and Leia's daughter, she wouldn't know Luke was her uncle, but just a friend of her parents.

I'd like to hear your opinions on Luke and Leia and Family and their relationships.

 

Well, you have some interesting points there. I've never thought about that possibility, but it could make sense. Something in the lines of "protecting" the family from any possible backlash or signs of violence against them from Emperor/empire followers. It is a reasonable concept IMO.

 

I like the idea of Luke being outcast for his Jedi(and Sith, if people end up know that Vader is Anakin) heritage. His name is Skywalker. Since Leia is an Organa, nobody has to know that she is also Vader's kid. She can go on politicking unhindered.

Side note: Why the heck did Owen and Beru not change Luke's name to Lars?

 

Supposedly the DMV on Tatooine is very slow and Uncle Owen got fed waiting to get Luke's birth certificate changed so he walked out and hoped Vader would never find him.

 

I always figured that anyone that was alive during the Jedi purge would have known that Anakin was Darth Vader; it wasn't really kept secret (Yoda and Obi-Wan found the evidence right away), and had he not been so horribly injured he would have continued looking the same as he always did. Just look at Count Dooku and how rarely he was referenced to as Darth Tyranus: everyone knew it was him, once the Sith-cat was out of the bag. The only evidence for Darth Vader's identity being a mystery is that Luke and Leia were lied to about their true heritage.

Now that Luke and Leia are older and they DO know that Vader and Anakin were the same person, I don't know if they could keep it secret if my above point is at all accurate. Someone would eventually start asking questions (which you would think would have happened sooner, due to the Skywalker name being shared between Luke and Anakin), which could lead to some interesting story pieces: what if Luke and Leia are outcast for being related to such an evil character? What if they're made idols by dark force users due to their relation to Vader? Then again, only Luke shares the Skywalker name, so maybe Leia does get out of it...

As for their personal relationship, I can only imagine that going through with patricide would be difficult on Luke, which would cause Leia to want to help; in short, it would pull them closer together, emotionally. I believe that as children of Vader their fates are probably linked, unless of course Leia and Luke keep their bond secret. If they do keep it secret then I can see Luke distancing himself to protect everyone else; potential story line there, too! One of Leia's kids could find out about their past and become too curious about it all, causing their fall to the dark side. Maybe that's the name for the next movie: A Hidden Heritage, or A Secret Past.

 

Remember when Vader tortured his own daughter in such a way that it had to be done off screen? I bet leia's got a heap of pent up anger going on. Maybe Leia turns?

 

It would be funny if they reference the kiss the they shared they should bring it up and then have a nice awkward silence. .. Han will use it as a jab at them...... hey remember that time you kissed your brother.....wierd....maybe that's what turns Leia being teased about it drives her over to the dark side

 

When I was a kid ROTJ was my favorite SW movie because of the way Vader saved Luke and Luke saved Vader and the Emperor died and the rebels kicked butt and the Ewoks danced and everyone lived happily ever after...

I mean, Luke seemed like he was finally (and quite suddenly) at peace at the end of it all, what with smiling at Anakin's Force ghost and all. It's hard to imagine him faltering toward the dark side after ROTJ. GL should have made Luke's last scene the one where he's staring at Vader's funeral pyre. That would have left a more ambiguous story arc for JJ to build on in the ST.

If I were JJ, I would salvage it this way. During the 30 intervening years, Luke has kept his identity secret. He has trained a few good Jedi when suddenly he becomes haunted by recurring nightmares or visions that feature Vader tempting Luke to the dark side, reminiscent of the Dagobah cave. Luke panics, abandons his padawans (Daisy, Gleeson, whoever), and goes into hiding. Eventually he realizes a powerful dark force (Plagueis?) is manipulating his thoughts, and he obsessively seeks out and tries to single-handeadly defeat it.

Meanwhile Leia, who is an important political figure, keeps her Skywalker heritage a secret all these years. She has also developed Force abilities of her own, albeit of a more mental kind that a politician finds useful. She's very good at reading and manipulating peoples' minds (like obi wan in mos eisley), but she also has premonitions (like Yoda). So when Luke suddenly disappears she has premonitions of Luke's death, which kicks off the whole "in-search-of-Luke" storyline we've heard rumored.

 

I believe also like the idea of keeping Leah quiet and protected from the skywalker name. Hence she and Luke have kept some distance (though they are friends so the occasionaly connection occurs). There has been backlash at the word Jedi...since it is a 'dead religion' and uncertainty keeps people very leary of anyone with a lightsaber. Jedi are accused of being the reason for destruction and war so they must be silent in their dealings. They are secretly at work in EP. 7.

That being said perhaps Leah's secret comes out...that her family name ends up putting pressure on her (since she has a high capacity of leadership and someone catches wind of it). This causes all sorts of issues where Leah's (Jedi lineage) must be dealt with. People see her being so high in leadership as a grab for power akin to that of Emperor Palpatine and so she must flee along with her kids. Here is where the story could get interesting because it brings in the ellusive Jedi who Leah hasn't had any connection with but that her family must now need for help again.

What would be an interesting moment and a bit of a dark side push is the following...(and I am stretching here boys and girls) Han and Leia die together at the hand of the Republic (who has been hunting her and her family). If this takes place then the push to the dark side by Han and Leia's son (if it is in fact Adam Driver) takes place at the end of the movie...we see him exiting stage left with a new evil that reveals itself during 7. The act is a an act of sacrifice to save Luke or Daisy's charcter. The love of Han and Leah brings us all to tears as they die in each others arms. Luke is overcome with emotion and screams....Boyega's character has turned from Empire/Republic to a place of siding with these people who are now friends. The crew jumps into the Falcon narrowly escaping the newly (hidden evil that has been conspiring to take power back over in the galaxy) combined forces of Republic and old Empire who have bargained an agreement.

We end 7 with these feelings in Luke and the audience (themes that relate to real life). Evil continues! What did we fight for? (was the Rebel Alliance all just for nought?) How can we overcome these odds? Good somehow must continue!

It would be a dark place to end but it could create a shock of sorts!!

Thought?