The Reason Why Finn Can Wield A Lightsaber

Honestly from the movie Rey didn't feel all that capable with the light saber until she did that meditation thing. Before that it felt like she was basically trying to use it like her staff and not doing all that well. Finn seemed a bit more capable but overmatched and not all that trained with it.

Personally, rather than Finn kinda knowing the basics of how to use a sword, I'm more curious as to why Maz was really insistent that he use it. It may be a weapon, but in the hands of a non-force sensitive who can't block blaster bolts it seems like it'd be better to tell him to find another weapon as soon as possible.

 

Exactly.
Kylo is basically toying with Finn, until Finn manages to land a blow. Kylo ends it pretty quick after that.
Rey grabs the lightsaber and doesn't really fight well at all until she channels the Force.

The main problem here is people overstating Kylo's lightsaber skills.


That being said, I still think there is a chance Finn may be Force sensitive in the end.
The Force at least "awoke" him from his First Order brainwashing.

 

Finn had got a bit of practice against Nines... it's not like he had never used a lightsaber before when he went up against Kylo.
Also, Kylo was playing with Finn. Notice how quickly Kylo ends things after Finn managed to land a blow?

 

I really don't think you have to either be a trained swordsman or use the Force at all to wield a lightsaber as we have seen people like Cad Bane and Cato Parasitti use them without chopping their own limbs off.

 

You are forcing Finn to be force-sensitive based upon evidence that does not exist. No evidence in the movie claims Finn is force-sensitive.


For starters, Finn can wield a lightsaber and not be force-sensitive. At the end of the day, it's a weapon. Finn just happened to be in the right spot at the right time. Also you mention Finn has no lightsaber combat training. Actually, he does. He was trained to us a Riot Baton. That is how he fights FN-2199, because they were both trained to use the batons. He wields the lightsaber in a similar fashion to FN-2199.

However, Finn is not at the right spot at the end of the movie. If Finn is force-sensitive, then he will need to be trained by Luke Skywalker. How is he going to get trained if he is passed out in a recovery room? The next movie will not be long enough for Rey to be trained, then for Finn to be found to be trained in the force. It's not possible.

Lastly, there is no physical evidence that Finn is force-sensitive. He does not wield the force like Rey does. He just wields a lightsaber. It's clear that Rey is force sensitive. You are making general assumptions that Finn is force-sensitive but have no clear evidence. Wielding a lightsaber is not evidence.

Also from a story perspective, it makes no sense for Finn to be force-sensitive. Finn grounded the first movie because he was a human in a fight between force-users. We has normal humans could feel for him and the situations he was in. If he becomes force-sensitive, you take away that empathy for his character.


Also I'm really getting tired of this topic among several others. It's a waste of time. There's no evidence suggesting he's force sensitive. There are plenty more things to discuss that have not been discussed that are more interesting than this. I don't say this to be dick, I say this because there's a new one of these threads every day. I welcome you to the Cantina. But next time, use the search button and take a look. I'm sure you will find one of these threads that you could have replied to instead of creating another Finn is force-sensitive thread.

 

Why is a lightsaber anything but a "hypersharp" melee weapon?
If you don't cut yourself you don't cut yourself - it's as simple as that.

 

I am not sure why someone would need to be force sensitive to be a good warrior with a lightsaber. The death watch guy was pretty effective with the dark saber stolen from the Jedi temple.

 

Maybe he has the same fighting ability as the TR 8R trooper he fought, I always see troopers like the Death Watch leader Pre Vizsla have that fighting style.

 

Details like who can use a light-saber to who can actually use the Force seem to always be in flux in the Star Wars universe. I remember being a little kid, completely wrapped up in the fantasy of Star Wars, imagining that I could harness the power of the Force, just like a simple farm boy named Luke did. Yea, I understand he is the son of Vader and the Force is "strong with his family", but still, was fun to imagine, and at that time, midichlorians weren't even a factor, but later on George Lucas made them relevant. With the way the current regime is handling canon and SW history, my opinion is that I don't think that there was any motive for Finn to be given the light saber by Maz, other than, "here take this damn thing since you're rolling with this chick who's being way too emo right now, here just take it cuz my pad is about to get blown up by pissed off Storm Troopers." Sorry to over simplify things, but that's just my opinion given the current state of what's canon and what isn't. And we have seen non-Force sensitives enter into combat with Force users and not be completely destroyed; is Finn at the level of Boba Fett(?), hell no, but still...anyways, long way to the short answer: I highly doubt Finn is Force sensitive, he's just a guy, a guy who knows less about the Force than Han Solo:"Let's use the Force!!" Best. Line. Ever.

 

I simply do NOT think Finn is force sensitive. I would LOVE him to be, I just dont see evidence of it.

I have no difficulty accepting that someone trained from childhood with weapons, could fight with.. sorry to say it.. a glorified sword.

The only real difference between a lightsaber and a sword, is how well it cuts through other stuff, and in the finn / stormtrooper fight, the lightsaber gets "blocked", so it is reacting as a normal sword would in the fight.

Remember Finn LOOSES the fight BOTH times he tries to use the lightsaber, and is saved from death by Han in the fight with the trooper, and by "fate" against Kylo, (as Kylo chooses not to directly finish Finn off). IMO, it is clear Kylo is toying with Finn, which is why Finn doesn't die right away.

So in recap, Finn tries twice to fight with a lightsaber, FAILS both times, and would be dead BOTH times except for outside intervention.

So a need to explain why Finn is "super good" with a lightsaber isn't necessary, as Finn ISN'T.

As to the Rey/Kylo fight, it was ALREADY established she is an experienced fighter in the very first scene with her and Finn, so.... by her using a beginners taping into of the force, the lightsaber already being attuned to her (its Luke's saber) and her already significant fighting skills, as well as Kylo already being shot, and WAAAAAY of balance mentally from killing his dad, it seems to fitting, IMO, for her to obtain an almost victory.

 

Finn can use a lightsaber for the same reason that i can wield a knife. If i'm not careful i could cut myself with it, but in a fight with spetsnaz soldier i might nick him with the blade but still in the end i'm going to get stabbed to death.

 

Lmao compromise time
Even if he is or isn't force sensitive, I'm ok with the thought that you can wield a lightsaber without being Force sensitive.

If we all are just ok with that, then there's no reason he can't just get more lightsaber training and then beat kylo in an actual duel...hero story is in effect. Only rey is an actual jedi. Everyone's happy.

Personally, I think they should be only truly wield able by jedi and that if these are just regular swords anyone can use, who cares about being a jedi? Shooting lightning is fun, but as long as I can still stab dudes with a glow sword and rock out with it...whatevs.

The mysticism, like with anything I suppose, really does gradually die out the more I learn about star wars.

 

This.

Sorry Cut In Two, but I just don't buy your argument.

If anything, the movie takes great pains to show just how Force insensitive Finn is.

And two, I think your experience with martial arts fencing may have you overthinking this.

I am definitely not Force sensitive, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night

My practical experience is this. I am pretty good at swinging a bat, and in that instance the weight of it does matter immensely.

I did a sword fighting sequence in a play. We started out with what were basically foam pool noodles and while being practically weightless, I don't remember "maiming" myself with it. It was very easy to progress through to some pretty serious stage props that could have hurt either on of us, but it never happened.

To my eyes, lightsabers have always looked like they have some weight to them, and this is because the actors were using props for their scenes that were real. They weren't just holding handles or they would have never been able to get everything lined up and synchronized. You can see the strain in their arms and the reactions in the actors' faces. All of this implies to me that whatever throw away line we had about lightsaber blades being weightless, it just simply doesn't look that way.