The Reason Why Finn Can Wield A Lightsaber

Umm okay?????

I read through a bunch of posts and hoped to share some additional thoughts but . . . it seems this thread has been reduced to very hilarious rubble.

There a few good reasons to think Finn is Force Sensitive but the fight is merely a circumstantial piece of that puzzle.

 

According to Pablo Hidalgo, it's just other people on Takodana, although I do feel he has been misdirecting people a little.

Either way, I love how they've set up Finn in such a way that they can make him Force sensitive if they so choose.

 

But why?

 

haha best clip ever!

 

Yeah the melee weapons do indeed have something in common, they all cut you up if you don't know how to use them. Big words are not going to eliminate the fact that your theory is unlikly and it is you who keep arguing even though many have pointed out the obvious to you. You don't like your thread? Then don't keep answering to those who post in it but you can't just write something down and expect every single person here to agree with you.

 

Lightsabers are a made up weapon, so any claims they will lead to instant death for non-force away people is just speculation, but not indisputable fact, and IMO, the movies have shown it to be otherwise several times.

Lightsabers have ALWAYS been just glorified swords, anyone that saw star wars back in '77 has known this for DECADES, more, when you checkout the behind the scenes for all the movies, lightsaber fights were scripted as sword fights, usign sword techniques for the most part, at least back when the original trilogy came out. Heck, Luke was able to use one with NO training to block blaster blots, now while he is force aware, he had NO fighting skills, especially when compared to Finn, and not only did he not cut himself up, he blocked blaster bolts. So, it is not to far a jump in logic to think if you can swing a sword type weapon, you an swing a lightsaber without slicing yourself up. Beat a skiller weider, no (and Finn DID lose), but block a few attacks, get a few lucky hits, sure, but in the end, Finn DID lose, in the 1st case, rather quickly I would add, as the Stormtrooper fight only lasted seconds.

Not instantly die'ing after swinging a lightsaber is NOT a win, by any measure of the term.

In the 1st fight, Finn was disarmed, and facing immanent death, only to be saved by Solo. FAR from a "win".

In the 2nd fight, Kylo toyed with Finn, and when Kylo wanted it ended, put Finn down almost immediately, again, not a "win" in any measure of the term.

In both cases, I feel any attempt to attribute unexpected skill with a lightsaber to Finn, is simply not backed up by the scenes in the movie

That was about as long as it took the stormtrooper to disarm him, only Solo's shot saved his life

I guess I just view that scene differently, as IMO, Kylo was toying with Finn, in the manner of super villains everywhere, but when Kylo chose to act, Finn went down almost right away.

Thanks to others, NOT to his lightsaber skills, which is why arguments based upon Finn have "good" saber skills is pointless, IMO, as the movie showed he barely had enough to not die instantly. He lost to the stormtrooper in seconds, and lost to Kylo when he was done toying with Finn and chose to act. In both cases, Finn had enough not to die instantly, but little more. Given Finn was a warrior trained from childhood, I feel that is about on target as to where he would be.

I agree here, as that fits with the evidence from the movie, IMO. I would add to that that Kylo was also very mentally unbalanced as well, which affects fighting skills.

 

Seriously, what is foinee? Just curious. Is it sort of a "game on" type of thing like the Jawas use: Utinni!!!!!

Back on topic.

You're original theory as written was much better than the videos you posted. You should recreate the OP if possible.

Next, I just want to point out that you are now, and actually have been all along, talking about the physical properties and physics of things in a GFFA.

To be clear, the same GFFA where parsecs are a measure of time, super weapons can contain an entire star, there is sound in space, faster than light travel with no time dilation (I'll give a pass on this because we don't actually know what subspace is, even though they always...wait for it..."Make The Jump To Lightspeed"), etc.

Now it's time to revisit two concepts that have been discussed previously, if not directly, in this conversation: Willing Suspension of Disbelief and Cognitive Dissonance

In a nutshell, if you are going to assume, and argue the validity of, the reality of things and events in a GFFA, then you have to buy into all of it.

To Quote Han: "It's True. ALL OF IT... They're real."

Physics clearly don't work the same way in SW, so you have to go with the physics you are presented with in the films.

On film, it is clear that Lightsabers have mass (please see Vader's LS rotating around a center of mass in the blade when thrown)

In summary, this is the clearest explanation I can make as to why I can't accept your theory that Finn using a LS without hurting himself is proof of his Force Sensitivity.

He may yet turn out to be Force Sensitive, but it is not proven by your argument.

 

These videos really make the OP worse...

 

Cries for help do not concern me...

 

Rey picks up Saber for first time with limited combat knowledge with a staff fights a fricken powerful Darkside user................OWNS

Finn picks up Saber for first time after having Military grade melee training............Gets owned by one of his Stormtrooper mates

Finn picks up Saber for second time......................gets owned

Is there any point in Finn being force sensitive, he is already second fiddle to Rey.

Hey y'all remember all the advertising of Finn using the Lightsaber? Was kinda a distraction to make us think he was force sensitive yeah, so we didn't suspect Rey? Well some people aint figured that out yet, they still think Finn is force sensitive, those people will catch up in 2017.......

 

It would certainly be a interesting direction to take his character rather than just being black Han Solo which would guarantee him "playing second fiddle" to Rey for the rest of the trilogy.

Finn being advertised with the lightsaber, on the poster etc. was certainly a misdirection/red herring but his use of the weapon during the film was probably not to put us off the Rey fs scent, seeing as it's clear she's fs before he is even given the lightsaber. I mean at this stage you might as well argue his whole character was created to be a red herring.

 

-Pre Vizsla was able to wield a Darksaber, essentially an older version of a lightsaber, with considerable skill in TCW TV show.
-General Grevious wasn't FS, yet he could wield them as well.
-Han and Chewie both used them in the current SW comics awhile back.

So there's in-canon precedent for this.