The Reason Why Finn Can Wield A Lightsaber

Finn was able to use lightsaber because he was trained with electro melee weapons.

 

Melee weapons training is enough for someone to be able to use lightsaber.
Finn did not show any force powers in his duel with Kylo Ren.

Anyone can use lightsaber. Reason why force users are superior is in their force powers. They can lift objects, push objects, to see things before they happen, even kill someone using only the force.

 

It's amazing how the separatists trained their magnar guards that way,these stormtroopers are a new breed that make the 501st like soldiers just good with guns.

 

I have read your OP.

 

I think you missed my key point, if we are appealing to the films as authority and nothing else, you're weightless argument is without merit.

Every live actor playing a character who wields a lightsaber does so as if it has weight to it, because the props they were using DID have weight.

The concept is willing suspension of disbelief. If you buy into part of it, you have to buy into all of it.

There is nothing on film to support the supposition that lightsabers are a sub one pound cylinder (lighter than a mag light because of the batteries) with no "weight" to the blade.

Even better, just go back and watch the duel in the throne room from ROTJ. When Luke shuts his off, his hands hitch as the blade is extinguished and the center of gravity moves. Your argument that a Jedi "senses" this unreal weight could argue against this point, so...

Even better, when Vader throws his lightsaber at Luke on the catwalk, the blade rotates around a center of gravity that is in the blade, not the handle.

In the Star Wars universe we see on film, the blades do have weight. It is as simple as that. You can't argue otherwise without throwing out all of the evidence that we see on film.

The movies are the ultimate canon.

 

I think the OP is overthinking what Kylo Ren should have done to Finn immediately. Between you, me and the fence post (I know, I went old school there, big props to my Grampa for that one), Kylo Ren should have just Force choked the blast outta Finn as soon as he saw him holding that blue light saber, that's what I woulda done. "That belongs to me, so I'm just gonna choke you and Force drag your ass to me while I contemplate the difference between mac'n'cheese with butter and mac'n'cheese without butter, oh, and you're not gonna walk away from this one, pal." But that would have made for boring cinema; I think Finn's attempt at fighting Kylo was pretty frickin' awesome to see and was a great build-up to Rey stepping in to fight for her friend. And, pssst, Finn did lose...badly.

 

To me it seem Kylo wanted Finn to suffer in that fight because A: Traitor! and B: How dare you come at me with "that" weapon.
He wanted an engagement longer than five seconds but he was distracted by rage and his injury that Finn got a lucky hit on him.
If i was a force user in Star Wars and got into a fight i would just yank out your eyes Kill Bill style but with the force.

 

It sort of seems like you're take this movie too seriously like it isn't a fictional sci fi/fantasy movie came up with by hollywood writers to obtain mass appeal?

 

And this is where you and I politely part ways.

What I see on film is far more real than something GL said in an interview, or was quoted as having said. You are willing to retroactively change what is on film based on a fan theory and some throwaway line from a companion book. Yet I cannot "unsee" Vader's saber revolving around a point in the blade.

Are we talking about the movies or splitting hairs in a role playing game?

And further, I don't get where you think the PT Lightsaber swings were impossible, the actors were using real props that were digitally enhanced by the VFX artists.

When I watch any of the movies, including TFA where the actors were most definitely working with real props, they have weight.

@Darth Nerf Herder,

I love your thinking, but it would have looked way too much like Indiana Jones shooting the swordsman in the bazaar during "Raiders." It would have been a great movie moment but too close for comfort coming on the heels of Harrison Ford's on screen death.

 

Again, you're really digging deep, friend. Finn is in a coma or at least not conscious due to what Kylo did to him. Finn lost. Period. I know you think he should have been blown up in the first few seconds, but again: boring. There is no evidence that Finn is Force sensitive, unless you're counting the fact that he managed to fight for what, 30 seconds instead of the 3 seconds a non-Force sensitive should have fought? Makes no sense, you're confusing logic with entertainment; I'm pretty sure JJ Abrams was trying to get the point across to us that Finn, hopelessly outmatched, attempted to stand up to evil with a light saber...and wasn't gonna win anyways. If you're disappointed with the deviance from canon, well, buckle up, it's gonna be a bumpy ride for 2 more episodes.

 

You still fail to see the point my good friend because you are simply asuming that Finn has no hand to hand training. Seeing as there are now hand to hand combat Stormtroopers, you can't just asume that Finn didn't train to use melee weapons. Finn was scared when he entered the real combat scenario yet look at what a good shot he is with a blaster. Just because he didn't want to murder people and he wanted to run doesn't mean he had no melee training otherwise it would have been real foolish of him to take the lightsaber when Maz gave it to him as he knew perfectly well that it was a sword and not a blaster. A lightsaber is just like any other cutting weapon and nothing more. You also seem to be forgetting that this is the SW universe you are talking about and not real life. The SW world is filled with deadly weapons that are just common there like an everyday knife. Take the vibro weapons for example.

Look at their description: Vibroweapons were a family of weapons that utilized high-speed sonic vibrations to make the weapons more deadly; most commonly found on swords, vibrogenerators could also be found on axes, pikes, knives, etc. Almost anything with a blade had the potential to be turned into a vibroweapon.
These blades use high-speed sonic vibrations and just by the description it would seem that you would need extensive training on their use yet in SW we can see that even the not so bright Gamorreans use these weapons and they don't end up chopping their own limbs off. The same can be said about the lightsaber that could be treated as if you were to use a double edged sword. You can swing it at anybody and chop them down and you won't slice yourself apart yet if you were to face somebody that does know how to use swords, then you are in for a world of hurt just like Finn was.
In the SW universe, even lowly punks know how to use a vibroweapon so it is no surprise that anybody can do the same with a lightsaber.

 

Or you could just stop replying and ignore comments from this thread.

 

Lightsabers where always a real props. They have weight.