THREAD FOR THOSE WHO HATED THE MOVIE

I'm actually a she. I am married to a he, we'll call him Mr. Buckeye94, and he came home from work yesterday and informed me that he watched the new Solo movie trailer several times with coworkers. I guess they were doing SW nerd things instead of the financial nerd things that they were supposed to be doing at work. Anyway, he told me that it looks awesome and we must see it on opening weekend. I reminded him of how disappointed we both were in TLJ and maybe we should wait until someone we know sees it. He said "Oh, but this isn't The Last Jedi and it's done by different people!" Fine... looks like I'll be the one seeing it opening weekend and giving a review. Mr. Buckeye94 wants to see it now, it comes out the day after his birthday and we've only been in this marriage for 7 months so I think I still need to give in to make him happy.

I have a complicated relationship with the new ST characters. I don't necessarily dislike them, but I feel like the writers have wasted their potential and I don't know them as well as I should after the second chapter. Here's hoping Ep. IX can fix that.

It's okay that you like TLJ! I don't have issues with someone liking it, I have issues when they treat those of us who didn't like it as if we were stupid and don't understand or that our theories didn't work out so that's why we didn't like it. Or they just dismiss anyone with issues with TLJ with the classic, "You're just a butthurt whiny fanboy who lives in your mom's basement!!" Yeah, I'm none of those things. And clearly, you're not that kind of poster whose only coming here to stir the pot. While I didn't like TLJ, I'm still a SW fan and I hope that I like the next movies that are coming in the next year and a half. I don't want to be in the "haters" camp forever!

 

Building a new Rebellion from scratch by re-instilling hope in the people of the galaxy and rallying them to their cause?

 

All around the Galaxy that will take years to achieve some important amount of rebel planet and war ships....so far the first order seems to have unlimited resources in every way...

 

see now.. i did not enter this thread to start disagreeing with anyone, but i can't ignore that!

Mrs Buckeye94, 7 months is plenty long enough that there should be no 'giving in' with regards to your views on Star Wars. release is a day after his birthday? well that's a day too late then

ughh! another phrase i would remove from the internet if i had the power lol.

8.5k members in the cantina... that's how many 'camps' there are. 8.5k different opinions.
there's a thread somewhere with ppl putting the star wars films in their own order of preference. it's incredible how different they all are. ST films near the top... ST film near the bottom. it's mad how differently we all see the films.
anyone that tries to steer us into different corners of the room and give us unique group names... is an idiot.

i loved TLJ (i'll keep saying that now.. it's therapeutic) and yet i completely agree with you.

i partially blame that on TLJ following straight on from TFA... it was a horrible decision to do that, and it was always going to result in us not knowing much about the characters. we needed to pick them up after some time had passed... after they have lived a little more and the galaxy around them had changed a bit.

 

Ah, yes, but are they 'saving what they love'? Everyone knows that’s how real wars are won

There’s this old story about a kid named David. He had to fight this massive monolith of a skilled warrior named Goliath. He was outmatched in every conceivable way. I’m a little fuzzy on how that scenario ended though. My memory’s not what it used to be

 

In my opinion that is the most dangerous nonsense the movie had to offer for a military.

Of course, FO would of course welcome such sentiments. <FO Commander>Whew, that was so close! I mean, can you imagine what would have happened if that junk actually touched the Canon? *touches brow for cold sweat* Whoever bribed that woman, get him a raise!</FO Commander>

 

Yeah, that was pretty head scratchy for me in the theater. I mean, I get the sentiment. ‘Why you fight’ and ‘how you win’ are important, reflective, informative questions to ask in a setting dealing with war.

But that situation wasn’t really a ‘fight’ at that point. They weren’t trying to “win” anything. They were just trying to survive. Rose “saving” Finn could have resulted in everybody’s demise. As far as she knew, that “big ass door” was the only thing standing between base existence and total annihilation.

So much brow furrowing for me in this movie. Terrific ideas oddly executed (IMO).

 

Haha! Don't worry, if I don't enjoy Solo then I will get even with him. There's got to be a sappy chick flick coming out in the near future that I can make him take me to.

Being called a hater because I didn't like TLJ used to bother me, but not anymore. In fact, the other week someone called me a "Reylo hater" and I took it as a compliment. Maybe I'm just getting used to be called that?

I can't agree enough with you on no time jump between TLJ and TFA being a huge mistake. I think it would have helped immensely with some of the issues I have with the film. Rey's character for example. Even if they would have had a time span of a few months go by with Rey on the island and at least implied that she was being trained by Luke, and maybe thrown a flashback of her training in for good measure, it may have helped those of us with issues on Rey's character development and her lack of training. I imagine that there's going to be a time jump between TLJ and Ep. IX. There almost has to be, right?

Thank you, but there's no need to apologize! No offense taken! Like I said above, if Solo is another disappointment then I will have to get even with the hubby and force him to take me to something that he doesn't want to see. I'm not above revenge! I'm not sure what the expect with Solo. The trailer looks great and Ron Howard being involved gives me hope. I'm still unsure about Alden as Han. I'm not familiar as with him as an actor and I don't really look at him in the trailers of the movie and see Han. I will go into this with an open mind though and give him a chance. The good news is that there's sure to be a hate thread for the Solo movie around here so I'll have somewhere to vent my frustrations - again!

 

So with its UK DVD release I bought it.... yeah yeah, I know but I couldn't stand not owning every Star Wars film and I thought just maybe as I haven't seen it in a few months maybe my opinion would of changed..... My thoughts:

• The opening joke still feels like it belongs in a Hot Shots film.
• The Luke standing there in Jedi robes looking deep and thoughtful, before throwing the lightsaber over his head in Benny Hill style, going off to get changed into grumpy clothes, followed by 10 mins of film that could only be less subtle if the film paused and Rian Johnson walked out with big board and went "this isn't the Luke you Remember" all still feels like a first year film student could of done a better job making it feel less corny and jarring!
• The Leia flying through space scene still looks like they borrowed the technology used to make Dean Cain fly as Superman in the 90's.
• EVERYTHING in the story involving Holdo is terribly written and makes very little sense.
• Hux still feels like he would be better placed in a Hot Shots film as well and Domhnall Gleeson looks more menacing in the Peter Rabbit trailers.
• The Rey I knew who my parents where all along still still comes across as massively underwhelming considering the amount of screen time they devoted to it's mystery.
• The Canto Bright stuff still feels more like Harry Potter then Star Wars.
• The script for BB8 feels like off cuts from a script for R2D2 in the prequels.
• Not giving Snoke a back story and just killing him off, still feels lazy considering what a massive part he played in the set up of this trilogy.
• Lukes death still feels massively underwhelming, especially considering we have waited 30+ years to see him back on screen, and considering you have him act grumpy for two hours then appear as a projection before fading away into nothingness. What makes it even worse is how good Hamill is in the role! What a waste!
• It still feels feels like Rian Johnson made decisions on what would most subvert expectations rather then what made the most sense to the story
• Despite Johnsons obviously desire to be original the film still steals rafts of plot form Empire Strikes Back.

So in short I still hated it and thought it was a mess and massive missed opportunity....... i'll try again in a few months.

 

http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/person/1072169|0/Rian-Johnson/biography.html

 

yes, sadly the decision is made and after the shock with TLJ with Luke's treatment and all the sadness followed, it is something I did not decide easily. You can really believe me.

Just saw a great movie 'Jim Knopf' (from a Michael Ende novel). This movies is not for action movie lovers, but for people who enjoy lovely done and sometimes silent movies with a great message.

 

Rose's theme is mildly irritating in fact her character gets more irritating the more I see it. Which is a shame because I love Kelly. Hopefully JJ can put up a better script for her this time around and make her less condescending.

 

But you still bought the DVD, for which Disney say a heartfelt "thank you" and laugh all the way to the bank.

http://variety.com/2018/digital/new...ops-dvd-blu-ray-disc-sales-charts-1202748275/

 

Stay Strong!
Let the hate flow through us!

 

Yeah I know I am very aware of this lol

 

For me, I go watch movies my son and I will likely enjoy. He's not much of a SW fan, but that hasn't stopped me from dragging him out to the last 3 movies. By TLJ upsetting me, I'm not going to push him to go watch something he, nor I, are that interested in watching. It doesn't help that there's a bunch of movies around the same time that he's much more interested in watching. The reality is there's a lot more competition for sci-fi/fantasy then back in the 70s and 80s.

 

The people who are apologists for this movie are tremendously insecure. They label those who didn't like it as close minded, sexist, etc. That ridicule people who actually had the audacity to think that Luke Skywalker, one of the greatest heroes in cinematic history, would actually behave like, you know, a hero.

It angers them a great deal that there are actually people who don't share their point of view. This thread is a perfect example. It got to 100+ page not only because there are so many people that didn't like E8, but because of the people who did like it who have to argue. Pretty funny to watch.

Thread for those who loved the movie: 23 pages of people talking about what they enjoyed
Thread for those who hated the movie: 140 pages of people talking about what they hated, and all the insecure people who loved it coming in here to argue argue aruge

Agreed. The "no time jump" was one of many bad decisions.

If you ever watch the end of E7 and then go straight into E8, it makes ZERO sense whatsoever. It is laughable how those scenes which chronologically take place right next to each other are so ridiculously disjointed.

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+1. Not only are there several sci-fi/fantasy franchises out there, but Star Wars isn't even the leader anymore. It's really just another movie series. That will be the true and lasting legacy of E8.