THREAD FOR THOSE WHO HATED THE MOVIE

Ok Earnest question here. Were there separate theatrical cuts? Because something I never hear being talked about that was in the movie I watched, was the Dreadnought, after firing its biggo laser on the base and destroying it (which everybody survived because of Poe's distraction tactic), was the commander telling the gunner to re-target the biggo laser at the cruiser itself. Then, when all the bombers are destroyed but for the last with Rose's much more heroic and competent sister, there is a line spoken that they are less than 10 seconds from firing the biggo laser AT THE CRUISER. If the bomber fleet had not engaged, they would all be dead, would they not? the Dreadnought was seconds away from killing literally everybody except for the fighter squadron currently engaging it, including Leia.

Yet nobody talks about it making me paranoid that I'm either going insane, or I watched some super secret cut of the film that wasn't in the theaters. I did rent it On Demand.

 

Because they could have easily hyperspaced out of there well before the bombers even attacked, before Poe even destroyed the last turrent. Hence why Leia wanted him to abort.

 

The transports were still lining up outside the cruiser. They weren't all tucked in yet. And they were too close to the planet to jump away anyway.

 

Well in Rogue One ships go into Hyperspace from the atmosphere. And I am pretty sure they don't need to be grouped together since each ship has it's own hyperdrive. Maybe I am mistaken in that.

 

http://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=sU2Uja7RIBs&p=n#/422;427

 

uffffffff, unwatchable, even this small part....to me. I just feel embarassed for the actors almost immediately....It´s so better to forget all these scenes...the end with the broom boy....well, the entire movie

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On the other hand, there is another 4K movie out there. Star Wars. It has 80GB, but when I´ll return from holyday, I will definitely look at it.

 

There's a lot of cringeworthy acting in this movie. Seeing various clips since after the movie came out reminds me of how amateur it is.

 

I hate to say it, but I think Star Wars might be done for a while. I don't see or hear any ideas coming from anywhere that makes me want to see Episode IX. I don't care about Rey or Finn fighting with the Resistance. I only care where they come from, how they got where they are, and what do they want for themselves. TLJ didn't give good enough reasons to care what these characters do going forward. Finn could be FS, but I wouldn't care, because it should have been done gradually. Not all of a sudden.

 

Bought the movie yesterday on BD.

Beautiful shot, but the script is complete ass.

 

The transports are docking on the cruiser. They were lining up outside it waiting to get in. So I don't think they had hyperdrives.

And if the bomber squad that was just sitting there outside for no discernible reason alongside the fighter squadron all had their own hyperdrives, than the cruiser could have jumped away at any time it wanted, if the transports weren't still being collected. But they stayed to the 11th hour about to be destroyed by the Dreadnought's gun so I imagine they had to, therefore they would have been destroyed if they had been there 5 seconds later, if not for Poe's actions.

 

I'm convinced that someone asked the actors to "Disney it up" for this movie.. or something. Or maybe Rian just has terrible standards.

Or maybe he let executives take over in the editing room.. and use the most Disneyfied shots of everything.

Adam Driver and John Boyega were straight up cartoon characters in this.

 

The transports had hyperdrives did they not?Finn and Rose took one on their little jaunt.

They hung around because Poe wanted to destroy a dreadnought. That was the whole arc of Poe's story in this movie. To learn when to take crazy risks and when to run and fight another day.

 

The cruiser wasn't engaged in the fighting, so they were allowing themselves to die? If they could jump, they would have to not have everybody die, even if it means leaving the fighters behind, since the fighters have their own hyperdrives anyway. But it stayed, because it was still collecting all the transports full of people and equipment.

I understand that this was the intended arc for Poe, but for many other things in the movie, the story shown didn't quite fit the character interactions and how they respond to things. That's why people are doing funny things like #Poedidnothingwrong, because there's something worth talking about, regardless of the intention.

 

I am not saying it was a good arc or anything. And for me it is not made clear if those ships have hyperdrives and it wouldn't have been important to the story tellers as they were more interested in the decisions of Poe. The fleet was waiting around for the bombing run to finish as Poe wanted it to happen. Leia called them back before it started.

Leia should have just ordered everyone else to break off the attack and got out of there. Of course that wouldn't fir the story they were trying to tell.

 

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2011/12/17/about-that-neverending-story-remake

 

I think this is a point that's overlooked. Lord knows we had to swim against the current in even making a case for a Finn that would matter to the story and have an ability to stay on the "front stage" - but TLJ only makes the case for a generic Resistance member. Not a fighter pilot, not a revolt leader, not Special Forces, not FS, nothing that is remotely interesting has any chance of happening where it won't seem like it came completely out of the blue (IMO).

I want to have Finn on the front stage, but we want organic development. I know, I know... time skip. The time skip will fix everything. Sigh. This Trilogy could have been SO good with what they started with. I can't believe they executed so poorly inbetween episodes

 

I sure hope not. If the transports all had hyperdrives, and the FO weren’t “monitoring small transports” (for some reason), then the Resistance could have given them the slip whenever they wanted instead of committing to the galaxy’s least interesting chase.

 

It was misguided and an error to make a movie about Star Wars rather than make a pure movie or a pure Star Wars movie.

I think quite a bit of issues steam from this.

Issues that Solo and other movies don't seem to suffer from what I've read.

 

Does anyone think Snoke's line in TLJ kinda contradicts the whole "Snoke was influencing Ben in the womb" thing?
"When I found you I found what all masters... bla bla bla - raw untamed power" or something like that.

Is he talking about a fetus?