SPECULATION Vader's Unfinished Work

Another thing to note is that he isn't wearing the same suit in the new pic as in the VF pic (he also appears to be rigged for wire work in the new one), and his head rig isn't the same one (no "VICON" as in the VF pics of he and Lupita). From what I have seen they usually use the same suit (with the same marker placement each time - which is different in the 2 pics), or one exactly like it, for the whole shoot.
I'm not in the industry, just obsessive.

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Example? The whole point of the suit is to capture the movement of your body to create a framework for the cg model. I would think a robe would get in the way of that unless you are specifically trying to capture fabric movement - or you are only replacing a head.

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Xzavior, why would you mark this as Off Topic when you have contributed multiple times to the same mini-discussion? Just tell us you would like to get back on track.

 

You're very welcome

 

First Vader did NOT support or approve of the "Death Star" nor did he seem to endorse or espouse the "Tarkin Doctrine".

The TD concept is that a small well armed group can control large areas or places with large populations thru fear & intimidation.
Watch ANH(1977). Tarkin wants a series of Death Star battle stations. Vader, on the other hand feels the force & his Jedi-Sith power are far greater than any WMD.
Tarkin, Palpatine and the "Gran Moffs" all considered weapons/army power as the best way to run or control the entire galaxy.

It seems from ANH to ROTJ, Darth Vader(Anakin) seems to change from heavy to a main bad guy to a converted good guy. He saw gaining Luke and maybe Leia as a way of increasing his power then preventing any future threats like Snoke or The First Order.
It makes a lot of sense when you step back & think about it.

 

I could certainly see Vader starting up the KoR as a secret side project.
We know that Vader is already keeping a stable of Dark Side lackeys.. And Palpy appears not to be concerned about this.

And we know that JJ wants to recombine pieces of the old EU into his new canon. And Vader was doing something like this with Galen Marek..

His past certainly provides some motivation.

More importantly is Palpatine. Particularly Palpatines power. His so-called unlimited power. By secretly raising an order of dark jedi knights, is Vader in fact diluting Palpatine's power??

So yes, I could see the Vader aspect, born out of that emotional soup of rejection by the Jedi, would actually seek to rebuild that order in his dark image.

I will disclaim that I am drunk while posting this. Hey Wuher, another correlian ale down here..

 

My thoughts (again):

• Ren wants Luke's saber
• When he has it, he uses it to track Luke
• There is a device or person who can do this
• Putting the saber in the device is like giving a bloodhound a scent to track
• Ren wants Luke because Luke killed Vader
  
• Ren follows the directions offered by the device/person
• Ren doesn't find Luke, he finds Vader's charred remains
• This confuses Ren as he reveres Vader
• Why has Luke's saber led to Vader?
• Ren has an epiphany and his world is shaken
• Ren's dismay and confusion echoes that of the audience first seeing ESB in 1980
• The audience gets to relive the "I am your father" revelation through Kylo's epiphany

Probably nothing like that (I doubt Ren gets the saber), but it would be interesting if it played that way....

 

I agree with your thoughts except for the ''I am your father'' moment, that will always be remembered for TESB, time for a new revelation maybe it's time the kid to do the revealing but then that might cause the story to drag on when that moment will happen.

 

I meant, Ren will realise Vader is Luke's father. For the audience, this is a given: for Ren, it would be a game-changer....

 

Yes to what end, Luke most have ticked this guy off bad him to want him dead.

 

This discussion about the "good" side of the Empire reminds me of this little sketch about the SS:

 

What does the First Order want? Well according to the book Aftermath the first order is formed outside the galaxy using a few remnants of the old empire. Another clue is that there are dark force users in this place. It is supposed to be strong with the dark side so much that Ryo Ren states, "He is immune to the light." So once the remnant is finally ready they attack the galaxy which holds many different factions. The New Republic I think is the strongest of the factions. the parts of the Empire closest to the rim are the first to be absorbed into new First Order. I think once the First Order does appear many of the former Splinters of the Empire joins the New Republic then that forms the Resistance. However, the first order uses many abhorrent techniques to spread their brand of terror. IE the flame trooper. So the First Order are continuing Vader's objectives. He wanted to end the rule of two. So he found the well spring of the dark side. So he might have started the Knights of Ren. This would show how fanatical these force users are. Again the galaxy must be put in order.