Why Snoke is a Sith

you are saying "the rule of two doesnt exist"

and then wheneer someone points out that it obviously does you tell them "no it doesnt"

you have tried to say it was a creation of the EU (it wasnt)
and that just "soem eu writer made it" (not true, it was george)
tried to invalidate the preqquels.

basically you have been a lazyt\ troll who is obviously trolling at this point.

 

ANAKIN : Are you all right?
QUI-GON : I think so... that was a surpirse I wont soon forget.
OBI-WAN : What was it?
QUI-GON : I don't know... but he was well trained in the Jedi arts. My
guess is he was after the Queen...
ANAKIN : Do you think he'll follow us?
QUI-GON : We'll be safe enough once we're in hyperspace, but I have no
doubt he knows our destination.
ANAKIN : What are we going to do about it?

Then later...

QUI-GON : ...my only conclusion can be that it was a Sith Lord.
MACE WINDU : A Sith Lord?!?
KI-ADI : Impossible! The Sith have been extinct for a millenium.
MACE WINDU : I do not believe they could have returned without us knowing.
YODA : Hard to see, the dark side is. Discover who this assassin is, we
must.


So here we see that Qui Gon identifies a force wielder but the council members reject the notion it was a Sith - thus there are other Force wielders that the Jedi know of and have likely combated.

 

Newsflash... they arent the only source of canon.

Learn what is considered canon, the two big examples feature a myriad.

you dont get to invalidate canonical sources that george lucas has approved of.

And going JUST by stuff that george was involved with... We have Asajj Ventress, Bariss Offee, Pong Krell, the Nightsisters, and Nightbrothers...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GEORGE LUCAS.... THE GODDAMNED Maclunkey CREATOR OF STAR WAR<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

<<<<<<<<<<DID EXTENSIVE WORK WITH STAR WARS THE CLONE WARS AND HAD A HUGE AMOUNT OF INPUT ON IT. <<<<<<<<<<<<<

stop ignoring this just because you find it inconvienient, otherwise you are just a sack of crap troll.

 

The thing that @FallenAngel is missing is the stuff in between the lines.
In the PT the Jedi monopolised the Force. There were no Sith and so any Force users who really wanted to master the Force had to become Jedi.
If you were a Force user that wasn't taught by the Jedi then you didn't stand a chance against them - individually or against their ten thousand strong group!
So the Jedi ruled with ease for a long period of time. They settled disputes and took down criminals here and there. But no one was really noteworthy as a challenger to them until the Sith, with all their knowledge and power, returned for revenge.

 

did you seriouslly.... SERIOUSLY just "no ur a troll" me?

dude... i have been reasonable since i first posted here, I even explained in detail a possible explanation for how Snoke could be sith thus validating your fan fiction.

you are so hellbent on having it your way, and rewriting the canon that you are being a major jackass.

 

There were only 2 Sith left in ROTJ. They both died = no more Sith. Their order died.

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@FallenAngel Maz is good and uses the Force. Is she a Jedi?

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In TFA Kylo Ren is bad. He uses the Dark Side. He is not Sith. He is a Knight of Ren.

 

There is none, you keep claiming that random parts of the canon would contradict Snoke being a sith. Then try to say they arent canon without any logical basis.

At one point in the Canon there were four sith during the rule of two, both subscribing too the philosophy.

And the rule of two in canon was instituted by Darth Bane, before that there were thousands of sith... snoke could be from a group that splintered off before then, or even be from before that time period.

Your insane ramblings are just spewing vitrioles crap at canon wildly like a psychopath.

 

in AOTC, The Lost Twenty are mentioned. Former Jedi who left the order. If they started using the Force in bad ways (the Dark Side) - as any Force user could. But without going by Sith doctrines or learning Sith knowledge, they wouldn't be Sith.

He didn't say that.

 

i admitted the possibility several times, just that i dont agree with it and that I think he is something else.

And then posed my opinion that he was likely a member of an offshoot group... and cited examples of similiar such groups to demonstrate that it is indeed possible.

the sith after all are a splinter faction of the jedi... the sith or the jedi could have many other splinter factions.

 

The Sith were established in the OT. The name was used behind the scenes but left out of the final scripts.
I'm not sure the relevance of this.
There was a rule of two, started by Bane who was the last of the old Sith. This continued up until Palpatine died and then the Sith Order was no more.
Snoke replaced it with something new. Similar of course to the Sith but new nevertheless.

 

I DONT GIVE A Blast ABOUT THE RULE OF TWO!!!! THE RULE OF TWO IS Maclunkey IRRELEVENT!!

A minor aspect of sith philosophy does not constittue a binding phisical law of the universe... it has been shown that the sith break the rule of two, with both Dooku and Maul breaking the rule.

IT IS JUST A PHILOSOPHY!!! Its existence does not preclude the possibility of being sith, and I HAVEN O FRIGGIN IDEA WHY YOJU THINK IT DOES

 

How so, my friend?

 

Dooku took an apprentice while still Sidius's apprentice.

Darth Maul also took a sith apprentice (at this point he was still adhering too the sith philosophies quite strictly)

At one point there were four sith

It was also implied A(although not stated in canon as of yet, but in a book written right before the split) that Palpatine took on maul as an apprentice before he killed Plagueis.

Sith are very willing to bend and break the rule to suit their ends.

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are you retarded??? like... I seriously want to know... are you retarded?

because there is no way you are saying what you are saying... unless you are either retarded, or deliberately trying to troll.

 

Was that Ventress? She wasn't Sith though was she and Sidious knew about her? I think the point is that they only officially become Sith once the "third party" is killed. Only when they become a true apprentice, given a Darth title etc do they become Sith. And it might be that, Sidious for instance, has one apprentice and then briefly has a second he is about to promote - but he wouldn't let it go beyond that. He wouldn't let the knowledge or philosophy or the Sith to be expanded beyond his control.

See above. Though I don't know the details of this.

Indeed. Again, not sure how true this is or if Maul officially got the Darth title before Plagueis' demise. But I see no issue with there briefly being 3 or 4 sith contained within a small circle which quickly drops down to 2 again. It's still part of the same idea - the Sith remains a master and an apprentice.

For sure, but it seems they certainly kept to the 2 Sith rule up until ROTJ when Palpatine died.
I once suggested that Plagueis wasn't killed but went into hiding. He was no longer a Sith and then returned as Snoke later.

 

Its complicated, in the old EU they had a rationalization about "acolytes" in the NEU... it seems they were just sith


Actually bringing all this up, it makes me wonder if if Snoke was to vader... as Ventress was to Dooku, and Oppress was too both Dooku and Maul?