CONTEST And the Jar Jar for Worst Movie goes to

Just your opinion. In my opinion all 6 of them are good movies.
I do not find any Star Wars movie a bad movie.

And when I'am for some Star Wars, I always watch all 6 of them ( soon 7 ).

Only bad movies are these Ewoks movies and Holiday special.

 

The Clone Wars (2008)

I don't view the episodic films as anything other one long film named 'Star Wars'. To diminish one part is to diminish the entire episodic saga.

 

I don't think that is true. The movies came out separate from each other. That is like saying you can't say anything negative about one Rocky movie without diminishing the others. They each tell a different story, but all lead to one final conclusion.

Or so we thought, till Disney stepped in.

 

Speak for yourself.

I like Watto, Battle of Naboo, underwater travel in Naboo, Qui-Gon Jinn and Darth Maul, pod racing.
I also do not mind Jar Jar.

 

I couldn't agree more, I never saw the point in judging the movies separately.

 

ya, I guess most people are thinking AOTC. I see only one for my favorite.......ROTJ...... Hooray

 

I like ANH.
i ( personally ) just find ANH the weakest out of 6 Star Wars movies.

 

I was 6 when TPM came out so hey I didn't know any better. I still like the PT, especially ROTS. ROTS is dark and not so much for kids as 1 and 2. But ofc the OT is far better. AOTC is worst as most of us agree.

 

TPM

 

It's very hard to compare ANH and ESB, one movie stands on its own, the other is on a mindset the Saga became a trilogy.

ROTS is also, in my very humble opinion, a great Star Wars Episode... this movie had the greatest challenge to overcome... link the two trilogies together, go dark without going all the way since it was always meant to be Family movies... also, having to redeem from the deception caused by the first 2 episodes.

Then Return of the Jedi was filled with creativity but suffers from great flaws... so is Attack of the Clones.

Phantom Menace had a LOT of potential. This was the movie that had everything for it, freedom in the storytelling, great actors... and somehow, they missed the target.

I think for that reason, it's the worst of the Star Wars episodes... it is still a watchable and enjoyable movie... has a couple of great scenes.
But they truly failed it.

Still, Phantom Menace for me will always stand out for the following:

- Its soundtrack, probably one of the best J. Williams ever composed, Duel of the Fates is almost on par with The Imperial March.
- The Lightsaber fight... still one of my favorite.
- The Podrace (Minus the distraction from over the top characters)
- Some of the scenes between Shmi and Qui Gon... and this heartbreaking scene where Anakin leaves his mother... great great scene IMO.

But that's about it! From a 2Hr+ movie... that's not enough.

If I compare with Attack of the Clones, great moments include:

- The "Across the Stars" theme from John Williams
- The very first scene (Assassination attempt)
- Anakin & Obi Wan chasing Zam in the bar.
- Obi Wan vs Jango on Kamino.
- Jango & Obi Wan in the Asteroid field.
- Anakin losing it on Tatooine....powerful
- Shmi's funeral with Cliegg and Anakin... powerful.
- The Arena scene.
- The Battle of Geonosis!
- Yoda vs Dooku.
- The "begun the Clone Wars have" scene.

And you can go exponential for the rest of the Star Wars episodes.


So, my ranking would go as follow:

- A New Hope
- Empire Strikes Back
- Revenge of the Sith
- Return of the Jedi
- Attack of the Clones
- The Phantom Menace

And I am pretty sure, 10 years from now, The Force Awakens will rank somewhere 1st 2nd or 3rd.

 

Yes, of course you can. There are many scenes in the movies that I like more than others and some I don't like. I have no problem in judging these scenes individually but judging the individual episodes seems like an arbitrary separation to me. It's just my opinion you don't have to agree with me.

 

But really it is true, at least as I see it. What's also true is that you don't see it that way.

No argument here about that, that's a fact.

Actually it's not like that at all, this is Star Wars, not Rocky.

Rocky was never meant to be one long continuous story as Star Wars was, it just turned out that TPTB kept on making them. The Rocky films just don't coalesce like Star Wars because it wasn't designed like that. Don't get me wrong, I like most of the Rocky films, but Rocky is in no way, shape, or form in the same league as Star Wars. Nothing is, IMO. Some franchises may come close, but they are all their own different universes and as such incomparable.

Beyond that, I'm only arguing against singling one of them out as the worst, not against calling something about (or within) them out. Such as I love TPM, but I don't especially care for Jar-Jar's characterization in that film. Each of the films is flawed in their own way, but they all still have the same magic I fell in love with as a kid way back in the 1980's, and they are all one big epic immersive story which, IMM, sets Star Wars apart from anything else. YMMV.

 

So who are 2 braindead people who voted for Empire?

--- Double Post Merged, Nov 13, 2015, Original Post Date: Nov 13, 2015 ---

My ranking:

EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
RETURN OF THE JEDI
STAR WARS (that's what we all called that movie until 1999)
The 5 minutes of The FORCE AWKENS trailers

And NOTHING ELSE.

 

First, I'll just say I think you're massively misreading the Han and Leia relationship. And I think I know why. Han and Leia's romance was one born out of tension, sparring, and the companionship of being tossed together in a wild adventure. And it played out very cleary from ANH to ESB. Go back at watch their scenes on the Death Star in ANH, then at Echo Base in TESB, then in Cloud City, and finally culminating with: "I love you."

This might not jibe with your view of romance, or your preference, but it was well laid-out in the actual films.

You bring up a great point that the Padme / Anakin romance is more mannerly, befitting what Obi-Wan wistfully recalled as "a more civilized age." I have no doubt that was the intention of George Lucas in particular, but to movie audiences it was painfully wooden and arbitrary. When the audience knows the endgame, you have to invest them in the causes, and nothing in the Padme / Anakin romance did that. He showed up after ten years, had the hots for her. She was annoyed, and then after an ill-advised picnic they're in love? There was a lot of telling and no showing. The opposite was true of Han and Leia.

I like that you posted those images as well. And it makes me think: Those images are so evocative because we as viewers can project a story onto, can conjure meaning, and interpret the image to create something satisfying. But in the PT the images we were given we accompanied by abysmal dialogue, uninspired performances, and a general air of due diligence, rather than of rich, engaging storytelling.

 

I just do not see any of that in ANH.
Like I said before in ANH Luke and Leia actually look like future lovers.

And then huge skip in TESB, Han and Leia are crazy in love with each other. It is like whole movie is missing in between.


As for Padme and Anakin, it was not only one picnic. It was set of whole bunch of different situations which have led for them to fall in love. I do not think that she was ever annoyed. She was obviously attracted to him from the beginning, just scared because of all the problems that could emerge from that.

They where together for days on Naboo ( on deleted scenes Anakin even meet Padme family ). Like I said before, their story is like classic victorian love story with fantasy twist.

Also I find this scene stronger than any Leia and Han scene.

And when we add beautiful Across the Stars theme on top of that.

 

JJ Abrams The Force Awakens

 

If TFA turns out to be a major disappointment like TPM, I may just avoid the internet for about 6 months!

 

I wish Episode II had actually been more of a combination of II and III.

Darth Maul and Qui-Gon could have survived Episode I, Anakin could have defeated Maul in Episode II to become Sidious' new apprentice (rule of two, and we could have gotten a bit more story on Maul). There was absolutely no need for Count Dooku to exist, he was simply a throw away character - in fact the creation of his character makes me wonder if George regretted killing off Maul, and Qui-Gon for that matter.

Episode III could have been about Darth Vader eliminating the remaining Jedi (no order 66, leave it all to Vader to show how powerful he truly was) and possibly end the saga with him taking down Qui-Gon in front of Obi-Wan.

Wishful thinking... Oh well, I do hope that we will get an Episode 3.5 in the near future, maybe it will just be called "Vader" (Rogue One seems like it's going to be more of an Episode 3.9).

Anyway, who am I to say "this is what I would have done".. mad respect to Lucas, AOTC is my least favorite, but the franchise is the best in the galaxy.