1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

CONTEST And the Jar Jar for Worst Movie goes to

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by Darth NRM, Nov 13, 2015.

?

What's the worse Star Wars Movie so far?

  1. Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace

  2. Episode 2 - Attack of the Clones

  3. Episode 3 - Revenge of the Sith

  4. Episode 4 - A New Hope

  5. Episode 5 - The Empire Strikes Back

  6. Episode 6 - Return of the Jedi

Results are only viewable after voting.
  1. Kessel Runner

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Posts:
    23
    Likes Received:
    34
    Trophy Points:
    17
    Credits:
    546
    Ratings:
    +51 / 0 / -0
    I voted for AotC. The Phantom Menace, while a disappointment and the film of the series that has the most Jar Jar in it, at least had a handful of memorable scenes.

    AotC just had no impact on me whatsoever. It was so bland it didn't even produce a reaction and to this day I struggle to remember the plot or one stand-out scene: the wooden delivery from the actors and the computer game-style action sequences just made me shrug my shoulders and go "I don't care about any of these people or any of the events they're involved in". It was the antithesis of all that I'd come to expect from a Star Wars movie.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  2. laberinto911

    laberinto911 Clone

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Posts:
    4
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Credits:
    416
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0
    This is my personal list:

    1- The empire strikes back / A new hope (i love them the same way)
    2- Return of the Jedi
    3- Revenge of the Sith
    4- The phantom menace / Attack of the clones (i hate them the same way)

    The problem with Episode 1 and 2 is that they are useless movies. Ep. 3 is good, in my opinion. But to me, although the presence of the Ewoks, Return of the Jedi is far better, more intense (the final duel, th immolation of Vader), and one of my childhood's most central movies, by far :)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  3. Ricky Spanish

    Ricky Spanish Rebel Official

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Posts:
    328
    Likes Received:
    635
    Trophy Points:
    6,322
    Credits:
    1,239
    Ratings:
    +905 / 70 / -16
    Every film is at least good. People are just harsh because they watch these films more than they watch any others and almost every film gets worse if you over watch them. Plus it's Star Wars and the bar was set with ESB, people expect greatness.

    But Attack Of The Clones for me by some distance. TPM probably wasn't that much better in terms of story of character but it's organic look and final duel push it way above AOTC for me and make it a much more enjoyable watch.

    There's very few things I actually hate about Star Wars but the awful choreography of the Dooku/Obi Wan/Anakin fight and the horrible blurry, painted aesthetic of AOTC are two of them.

    I know this is an unpopular opinion but I also feel all 6 Star Wars films need new, updated special editions instead of yearning for the original cuts. There's nothing wrong with CGI, but there is something wrong with bad, dated CGI that takes you out of the experience. Update the CGI of all of them and take the dance music and Vader's NOOO out of ROTJ and I'd be more than happy
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  4. Darth NRM

    Darth NRM Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2015
    Posts:
    209
    Likes Received:
    205
    Trophy Points:
    1,207
    Credits:
    761
    Ratings:
    +388 / 34 / -24
    I firmly believe that the Prequel Trilogy, all together, with master editing might became a very good 120 minutes movie.

    From AOTC they will only keep two scenes, Zam assassination attempt and Yoda lightsaber duel (an amazing entire 10 minutes in an whole movie, OWO)
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Clouded Clouded x 1
  5. Cosmic Dolphin

    Cosmic Dolphin Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    May 12, 2015
    Posts:
    152
    Likes Received:
    210
    Trophy Points:
    3,497
    Credits:
    984
    Ratings:
    +429 / 11 / -8
    That is why you fail
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Trolling Trolling x 1
  6. Ricky Spanish

    Ricky Spanish Rebel Official

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Posts:
    328
    Likes Received:
    635
    Trophy Points:
    6,322
    Credits:
    1,239
    Ratings:
    +905 / 70 / -16
    It seemed to be a purely physical attraction which is why it was crap. Padme hadn't seen or thought about him in ten years and was only taken back when she met him because he was handsome. He acted like a creep around her all the time yet she fell in love with him after days. It's such a superficial rubbish story.

    Han and Leia were great, they had chemistry because they were so different and they both disliked each other when they first met. I normally hate relationships in films, I've been single my entire life because I was unlucky enough to be an ugly guy and films are an escape from reality for me, but I've always enjoyed the Han/Leia story.

    I hope there's no love story in the ST, it makes me depressed just seeing it.
     
    • Like Like x 5
  7. Jedi77-83

    Jedi77-83 Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2014
    Posts:
    2,285
    Likes Received:
    4,428
    Trophy Points:
    13,687
    Credits:
    5,976
    Ratings:
    +6,713 / 176 / -38
    Lucas talked after the PT that he divided up the plot points 20% to TPM, 20% to AOTC, and 60% to ROTS.

    That meant that Episode 1 & 2 were mostly filler and Episode 3 ended up being the story we were all interested in.

    I still contend the PT should have been 1 movie as its hard to tell this kind of story (a story where fans know the result) for 3 movies and keeps things interesting.

    Godfather 2 was able to tell the same personal backstory of Vito Corleone through flashbacks and it was riveting. If Copplola would have made 3 movies of the backstory of Vito Corleone then it would have been too much. The PT was a flawed idea from the start. The ST opens the possibility of taking the story anywhere and you aren't boxes in by certain plot points.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Messi

    Messi G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2015
    Posts:
    3,256
    Likes Received:
    8,567
    Trophy Points:
    87,567
    Credits:
    13,258
    Ratings:
    +10,963 / 197 / -29
    54 votes for AOTC. I knew it, and most of the fans agree.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  9. Jedi77-83

    Jedi77-83 Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2014
    Posts:
    2,285
    Likes Received:
    4,428
    Trophy Points:
    13,687
    Credits:
    5,976
    Ratings:
    +6,713 / 176 / -38
    I remember one of my friends fell asleep during the middle part of AOTC and that is when I worried about the state of SW. I thought it has to be pretty bad if a diehard fan is nodding off on a movie we waited 3 years for!
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
  10. Darth NRM

    Darth NRM Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2015
    Posts:
    209
    Likes Received:
    205
    Trophy Points:
    1,207
    Credits:
    761
    Ratings:
    +388 / 34 / -24
    Honestly, the ONLY Star Wars movie that actually makes any sense on his own is "A New Hope", perhaps because it's "Mad Max" approach to the story (Mad Max - What happened before doesn't matter and no one cares about whats gonna happen next, just take this ride for a while).

    All the STORY in all of the Star Wars movies is more a pretext than actually the main thing and in that way the Story never gets really good, but it sure as better or worse moments.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  11. laberinto911

    laberinto911 Clone

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2015
    Posts:
    4
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Credits:
    416
    Ratings:
    +4 / 0 / -0
    With "useless" I meant that Eps. 1 and 2 did a bad job with the characters' construction. Expecially AOTC: Obi Wan is "useless" because he is just a plot device, made to tell us that there is a clone army ready to fight, and blah blah blah. In Ep. 1, Obi Wan is a young padawan, maybe not ready to do the master, but forced by circumstances to take Anakin with him. In Ep. 2, he roughly say the name of Qui-Gonn.

    This is bad writing. Ok, the PT was useless, because the whole story was already been told in the original movies, but at least they could have been good movies. I repeat, to me Revenge of the Sith was good, but it was the third chapter of a trilogy that told very very bad a story that everyone already knew.
     
  12. Cosmic Dolphin

    Cosmic Dolphin Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    May 12, 2015
    Posts:
    152
    Likes Received:
    210
    Trophy Points:
    3,497
    Credits:
    984
    Ratings:
    +429 / 11 / -8
    Dude ! Every ugly guy I know found someone, and at least they know their partners really like them for who they are and not what they look like. Good looks fade...Go out and find someone... It is your destiny.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 2
    • Wise Wise x 1
    • Clouded Clouded x 1
  13. Protocol Droid

    Protocol Droid Rebel General

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2014
    Posts:
    506
    Likes Received:
    841
    Trophy Points:
    4,517
    Credits:
    2,104
    Ratings:
    +1,458 / 25 / -17
    I actually find the entire PT to be insufferable, but TPM gets my vote because it broke the seal.

    While we're on the topic, this is the best version of AOTC by far (highlights include Jango/ObiWan's bass-off in space and everything involving Creepio):


    Followed by the best version of ROTS by far (highlights include ObiWan/Anakin's opening LL Cool J rap battle and the electro dance-off finale on Lava World):

    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 15, 2015, Original Post Date: Nov 15, 2015 ---
    Ewok movies superior. Prequels inferior.
     
    #73 Protocol Droid, Nov 15, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2015
    • Like Like x 4
    • Wise Wise x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Trolling Trolling x 1
  14. Solo

    Solo Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2015
    Posts:
    644
    Likes Received:
    1,452
    Trophy Points:
    8,017
    Credits:
    2,235
    Ratings:
    +2,746 / 48 / -19
    I would take 1000 Ewok movies over one prequel film.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Clouded Clouded x 1
  15. Hud Solo

    Hud Solo Guest

    Credits:
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    This would have been awesome!!!! (dark)(qui-gon)
     
  16. Paul

    Paul Rebel Commander

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2015
    Posts:
    109
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    2,927
    Credits:
    1,004
    Ratings:
    +254 / 15 / -0

    I have to confess I was nodding off in AOTC during the cringeworthy romantic scenes on Naboo. I just didn't buy it as a love story and that is the major problem with the film. Unfortunately there's no way to fix AOTC with cutting because it would affect ROTS i.e. how is Padme suddenly pregnant. Anyway, not to worry, I think TFA is shaping up to be one of the better ones!
     
    • Like Like x 2
  17. jtobiska

    jtobiska Rebel General

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2015
    Posts:
    358
    Likes Received:
    714
    Trophy Points:
    4,667
    Credits:
    1,789
    Ratings:
    +1,153 / 27 / -7
    I have to agree with the majority here that AotC is my least favorite by quite a bit.

    I am honestly very jealous of you (no sarcasm here). Believe me, I wish I could just wish away my feelings, but I can't. I have been actively trying to like the PT movies for 15 years. Every so often I pull them out, I meditate on how I'm going to give them a fair chance and come in with no pre-concieved opinions, and I start watching, and immediately I can't take it. Just the other day I tried again with AotC. It was so painful. For me the most difficult thing to get past is the delivery of the lines. I don't need these movies to be great. I don't even need them to be good. But I can't sit through a movie where I'm taken out of it every couple minutes when a character speaks a line and I cringe. In TPM this started with the very first line and continued until some time after Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan get to Naboo. "I sense something, elsewhere, elusive.". I *cannot* listen to this line without cringing, no matter how badly I try. It's not the sentence itself, because those words on paper are totally star wars. But something about the delivery takes me out of the movie, and this happens so many times in the prequels that I'd just rather not watch them. I don't believe the actors believe the lines they're saying. So they're just words and then it feels awkward. But I *want* to be okay with them soooooo badly. I want to enjoy these movies, but I just can't. And that is why I am jealous that you can like them.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Wise Wise x 1
  18. DamionGraff

    DamionGraff Rebel General

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2015
    Posts:
    454
    Likes Received:
    657
    Trophy Points:
    3,842
    Credits:
    1,556
    Ratings:
    +1,159 / 112 / -44
    I don't mean to pile on, but this has to be a joke....
    The scenes between Christensen and Portman are "The Room"-level bad. ...No, they're not even funny-bad; they're just uncomfortable to watch. The written dialogue is horrifically bad and should NEVER have made it to the final script; only the most talented actors could have spoken those intensely awful lines and made them at least approach actual human interaction (instead, Christensen and Portman deliver a High School theater club performance).

    I admit that the plot is at least somewhat interesting conceptually: The idea of an assassination attempt on Padme, on the trail of a mysterious bounty hunter, assigning Anakin to be Padme's bodyguard. Good ideas, really. Too bad the big villain (the goofily named "Dooku", and btw an example of under-utilizing a marvelous actor) doesn't even show up until the final minutes of the movie. Too bad all of these interesting plot threads lead to terribly acted scenes like Anakin confessing about the Sandpeople to Padme...



    I firmly believe that if Kasdan had been on board for the prequels, they would have turned out vastly, vastly different. Better dialogue would have gone a long way in making them palatable.

    That said, I admit that ROTS is enjoyable, and I actually the love the hell out of Ian McDiarmid's Wicked Witch of the West performance. For me, he's the single most enjoyable part of the prequels.
    And....at least ROTS didn't have Ewoks.

    Now who the heck is saying ANH and ESB are the worst? :confused:(emperor)

    EDIT:
    Found some deleted scenes from AOTC...
     
    #78 DamionGraff, Nov 15, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2015
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Great Post Great Post x 1
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
  19. Darth NRM

    Darth NRM Rebelscum

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2015
    Posts:
    209
    Likes Received:
    205
    Trophy Points:
    1,207
    Credits:
    761
    Ratings:
    +388 / 34 / -24
    My fellow friends just stop to consider the great feature of the LucasArts & Disney deal....................

    We will get at least a NEW STAR WARS MOVIE a year for the next ten years!

    (like it or not, it's a lot of SW movies to watch and talk about and i want to see them all)
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 15, 2015, Original Post Date: Nov 15, 2015 ---
    Cheking Poll results and noticed that someone considers "Revenge of the Sith" better than "A New Hope" or "The Empire Strikes Back", or even "Return of the Jedi", you gotta be hallucinating. (but ok everyone has the right to judge what they want)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  20. Cmdr. Ed Straker

    Cmdr. Ed Straker Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2015
    Posts:
    1,750
    Likes Received:
    2,707
    Trophy Points:
    8,012
    Credits:
    4,899
    Ratings:
    +3,827 / 138 / -73
    WHAT? Did I really read this?
    ANH is still the best Star Wars movie in my opinion, this movie is more memorable as the whole PT combined.
    It's the beginning of an adventure we never expected to experience.
    It helped to open up a door to our imagination, many people got inspired by ANH.
    If this movie would be the worst of them and a failure, there would be no other OT movie or the Prequel trilogy.
    Even if some weird people consider ANH as weak, which is hard to imagine, it should have a special spot for them too.
    It's where all started, without it no Star Wars.

    ANH/ESB both movies are almost equal without shortcomings. (my personal view)
    I would rank ANH/ESB both as No.1 followed by ROTJ No.2 then a huge gap - TPM No.3 - ROTS No.4 - AOTC No.5

    By the way this is my favourite movie:
    Movie No.1.jpg
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 15, 2015, Original Post Date: Nov 15, 2015 ---
    Yeah I thought this to myself too, who voted ANH and ESB as the worst?:mad:
    I guess to each his own, but this is a classic what is wrong with them moment, no doubt. :confused:
    ANH/ESB are so bad that J.J./K.K./LFL/Disney are trying so hard to copy the elements from ANH and mix it with a darker tone borrowed from ESB.
    Some people should reconsider their taste.:rolleyes:
     
    #80 Cmdr. Ed Straker, Nov 15, 2015
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2015
    • Like Like x 2
    • Disagree Disagree x 1
Loading...

Share This Page