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Burning Star Wars to the ground.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Benjamin Lewis, Dec 16, 2017.

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    A man conceived by a very kind lady and the Force itself was corruptible so i am not buying that any human being in the SW universe can be incorruptible from birth.
     
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    Mmmm.. sorry have to disagree with that .. It's actually quite split. I"ve seen it once and I don't know how I feel about it. There's a way to say bye to the "old" but with a bit more thought into story writing and with some class.
     
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    You know absolutely nothing about that.
     
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    I never said Anakin's origins was ordinary quite the contrary. I said Shimi herself was by our standards ordinary. Yet the Force chose her to be extraordinary. The same with Rey.
     
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    Dear god, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, it's like you are not even reading what I'm saying.
     
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    Yet the Chosen One was not meant to be incorruptible. He was meant to balance the Force and he did that as both Jedi and Sith. The Force is calling Rey to be the light that meets the darkness.
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    I could say the same of you. I made my stance quite clear in at least two different comments directly at you lol.
     
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    It's strange. The fume two years ago (and last year) was that TFA AND RO catered to fans (and this was amongst the fans). Now they complain that the film is fresh? Seriously, this small minority of fans should just give up now. It is obvious nothing is going to please them so they might as well just rewatch the first six and get their fix that way.

    Not to be a troll, but did you complain about TFA and RO being unoriginal and just catering to the fans? There were a lot of fans in 2015 who said TFA sucked because it was unoriginal and not fresh. So they are damned if they do and damned if they don't? WTF....
     
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    The Force only used Shmi as a surrogate mother without "telling" her anything about it. She didn get any kind of abilities or powers and was pointless after Anakins birth.
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    What? Was Rey meant to be incorruptible? Why?
     
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    Why does she HAVE to be a Skywalker? Obi-Wan, Mace, Yoda... they weren't Skywalker clan members. What is this, some sort of royal family of the force? The author of the article says it best, so I'll quote him.... "I imagine we’ll see Star Wars fans upset about Rey not being a secret Skywalker or a Kenobi or a clone of Emperor Palpatine or the reincarnated Anakin Skywalker (the internet is a bad place), but Rey’s origin as just a person is more powerful than even the most shocking twist. Luke Skywalker and Anakin Skywalker emerged from a nothing planet as nobodies and rose to the occasion, stumbling into destinies they could never have imagined. To tie every character of significance to them and their circle of allies and enemies would be to rob them of their power. The beauty of Star Wars, since its earliest days, has been the depiction of heroes coming from every corner and every walk of life. A farm boy. A princess. A smuggler. They have no business saving the galaxy, but damn it, they have to! Who else will?"
     
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    If you think Shimi was pointless after the birth of Anakin you must have slept through the prequels but my entire point was the Force chose a slave girl to father The Chosen One. So it is out of the question for the force to chose Rey's parents to birth the eventual Awakening.
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    As said in the movies she is the LIGHT to meet the dark. So if the Force was going to chose someone, it would not be someone prone to the darkness.
     
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    Pointless to the Force. Let us get to the point: Is it canon that the Force picked Rey before her birth because she was incorruptible? Yes or no?

    Wasnt Rey born before Luke abandoned the Force btw?
     
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    When did I say this was definite canon? If you can remember all the way back a few minutes ago I told you it was "my understanding" If you require this much hand holding no wonder you do not like Last Jedi.
     
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    Answer my last question please.
     
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    Yes she was born before and your point is? Snoke mentions he thought Luke was the rising light but now sees it was Rey all along. Anything else you need?
     
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    It's clear @Mr Hux and @Aglarion severely disliked this film, and hold very strong opinions as to why. They are entitled to those opinions, and I am not certain why anyone is trying so hard to change them. It's pretty clear they are as immovable on their stances as others are on their love for the film. There's just no point.
     
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    It doesnt make sense. If Luke still was an ally of the Force there was no need for an awakening.
     
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    Talking across the isle is fun and can on some occasions be educational for both mindsets. Talking to people who only agree with you can get dull pretty fast.
     
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    Yes, but talking with people that refuse to budge is equally dull. The same can be said for those that unequivocally loved it and thought there weren't any problems with it and refuse to listen to any criticism of the film. Again, this is not personal against anyone. Truly loving the film and truly hating it, without wanting to budge from that position, is a TOTALLY valid response and netiher stance is condemnable in my opinion. It just...is...and seems pointless to me to try and change such steadfast minds over the internet. Shrug.
     
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    But we are not really discussing the quality of the film right now.
     
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    Well we are not really debating the quality of the film.
     
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