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I'm so disappointed.. by the fans

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by thrawn_lives, Dec 17, 2017.

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    That's fine, except that with a lack of imagination one can easily declare inconsistencies instead of imagining possibilities. So I prefer to try to imagine why what we see happened instead of thinking I'm smarter than the story group. Maybe sometimes I am, but I'd prefer to assume they're the experts at this. They're doing a hell of a good job.
     
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    What do you mean?
     
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    I'm saying nearly every time someone thinks they've found a plot hole, they are missing that there are always thousands of ways to satisfy any apparent plot hole or inconsistency.
     
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    How do you excuse away something that fundamentally cannot function in Star Wars' space combat? Frankly, if they wanted to do something less ridiculous, they should have just opted for Y-Wings to show that the Resistance was using older tech. Hell, the X-Wing series of novels tackled this kind of stuff better than these films do.
     
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    It did function. It destroyed a dreadnought that cost way more than even a thousand of those bombers would.
     
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    If you go into Star Wars seeking accurate physics and other science, you are gonna have a bad time. At that point you are just finding things to complain about.
     
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    And yet the First Order supposedly controls the entire galaxy at this point virtually unopposed and has limitless resources while the Resistance is scrounging for technology that is so archaic to the point of being nonsensical and fundamentally flawed for space combat. That dreadnought's probably just a drop in the bucket financially speaking.
     
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    The First Order is strip-mining the planets that they kidnap children from to fill their army. They have an incredible amount of resources.
     
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    In my experience, this is something people like to say when they feel bad about someone finding an egregious flaw (in this case being establishment of setting) and try to discredit the person making the criticism by saying they're "looking for things to complain about".
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    That's what I'm saying. Andy Serkis even confirmed their resources to be practically limitless so they shouldn't have a problem replacing that dreadnought.
     
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    It's what I like to say when I go to see a movie that has space wizards and lazer swords. If you are holding on to reality at that point it is no wonder why you might be disappointed in it.
     
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    As the movie points out, good people generally don't have a lot of money. People who exploit others do. So yeah, resources are unbalanced. But I'll continue to disagree that technology can be fundamentally flawed in a fantasy story. Especially one that has a laser sword
     
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    Could be that the particular technology for a weapon like that is expensive and rare enough that these dreadnaughts are also rare. If they aren't, they could have brought a fleet of them instead of a half a dozen other Star Destroyers.
     
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    I love this sudden change of personality. It goes "This is such a beautiful and profound film about powerful themes and inspiring messages that will inspire future generations" to "Guys, why do you care so much, it's just about space wizerds and lazer swordz, lel". It seems to change whether or not you're in agreement with someone or if the thing you like is getting criticized.
     
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    A saga with wonderful themes and amazing characters has nothing to do with any of what you are talking about. You are here in a debate about the accuracy of physics in Star Wars. That is asinine.
     
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    I'm not discussing anything regarding physics, you knob. I'm discussing the efficacy and reliability of a single warship in the films which doesn't seem to be consistent with the general design aesthetic of the entire saga when it comes to that very subject: space combat.
     
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    You can have a beautiful film that inspires people even if it doesn't conform to your interpretation of the fantasy physics at play
     
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    Yeah, a LIGHTSABER is perfectly functional within the Star Wars universe because it doesn't have a laundry list of fundamental flaws in context of the universe in which it resides.
     
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    Could've sworn someone was griping about bombs earlier. If that wasn't you...

    Then I earned that.
     
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    Literally nothing can have a fundamental flaw in the context of a fantasy universe.
     
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    That doesn't sound like a very interesting one when anything can be used to do anything at any time because plot. Kind of ruins any tension. I mean, why couldn't Poe have just used one proton torpedo to break the Supremacy in half? After all, it's a fantasy universe!
     
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