SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Difference was she didn't know she had a brother at that point and had only been with Luke for a short time after they were born. But if Luke had a family - wife and kid, then nothing suggests Leia wouldn't have known them. And she'd likely have seen a lot of Rey until she went missing. Thus she would recognise her. Like I say, in appearance alone young Rey and old Rey still have the same hairstyle. But if Leia spent time with her as well, she's recognise that through the Force.

This suggests to me that if Luke was the father then he wouldn't have known it.

 

She's Luke's sister. They seemingly have a good relationship until Luke disappears (she sent her son to him). She talks about Luke "coming home".

The above reply does. It would be inexplicable if Leia and Luke didn't have a close relationship and didn't see one another before Luke disappeared. She sends Ben to him etc etc etc

Young Rey and older Rey look the same. As I say, Leia would've known Luke had a family. She would've known them. And nothing suggests Luke suffered the trauma of losing a daughter. If he had, Leia wouldn't have risked sending the conflicted Ben to a grieving father. It's the Jedi slaughter that sends Luke into exile. If he lost a wife and daughter prior to this then reacting worse to the jedi slaughter and disappearing would be weird. Therefore, Leia would've known if Luke had a child. She would've known this child. And she would surely have some kind of connection with her through the Force - and she has the same haircut.

I didn't say that. I said there is one vestige left of that theory - that Luke (and thus Leia) never knew Luke had a child. That Luke's wife disappeared before she gave birth.

Like I say, if Luke had a daughter and raised her for X amount of years then Leia would've known her too. And if Luke lost Rey then he would be grief stricken. There is no indication this happened. Leia and Han would surely discuss such a thing on screen else it's a cop out. Young Rey looks like old Rey (hairstyle) and is an orphan on Jakku yet no connection is made by Han or Leia to Luke. Even when Leia learns that this Force sensitive orphan's destiny is to find Luke, she doesn't think she is Luke's daughter? Nah, don't buy it.

If Luke is her father, which I do admittedly find hard to believe, then it must be that he never knew she ever existed.

 

I obviously can't say anything is 100% factual. All I can do, all anyone can do here is speculate based on what we know. Logic and the evidence thus far dictates to me that if Luke had a daughter that he raised, then Leia would've known her too and thus recognised her. These forums are here for debating as much as discussion and until someone actually argues seriously against this, I shall continue with my argument. Like I say, nothing points to the notion that Luke & Leia wouldn't have had a close relationship with one another's families in the build up to the Jedi massacre. Quite the contrary. Han and Leia don't mention anything in TFA and Leia even sends Ben to be with Luke.

My point is - if Leia knew young Rey then she would see the similarity. Same hair. Orphan. Force sensitive.

 

I know it is. But why wouldn't she have known of Rey (and know her well) if she was once in Luke's life? That is my point.

 

Again - same hair. Orphan. Force sensitive. Potentially "looks like Luke or his wife". To say Leia wouldn't have known Rey goes against her relationship with Luke which the backstory to TFA thus far makes it sound as solid as ever. And you say"We also don't if Rey was in Luke's life during those years", but that is my point - if she wasn't in his life at all then Leia not knowing her would make sense. But if she was in his life then Leia would know of her. At least, that is the more likely scenario.

He might distance the Jedi from the Republic, but not himself from Leia. Leia sends Ben to Luke. That tells me that there was a solid relationship there. And Leia says about bringing Luke home. That isn't something you say about someone you rarely saw.

 

Well if we all went by facts and didn't speculate there would be pretty boring conversation in here.

Id like to know why Luke and Leia wouldn't have seen much of each other and what evidence there is for this.

It just strikes me that even if Leia didn't see much of Rey when she was with Luke she'd still be struck by a girl turning up who is the same age and has the same appearance as Luke's daughter; Is powerful in the Force; Is seeking Luke; Is an orphan and was alone on a faraway planet.

Coupled with her force powers, Leia would have to be an idiot not to see the connection.

 

If that was the only thing I was saying, sure get mad.
But It's not just her appearance. It's her Force power. It's being an orphan. It's being the right age. It's the destiny to be with Luke. It's the emotional/Force bond.
So by itself, the hairstyle and "other features" might not be rock solid evidence. But with everything else...It would at the very least rouse suspicion.
And you keep saying that you looked nothing like your 5 year old self - well, the problem is, Rey does. So that argument is kind of moot.

 

In terms of that quote - yes perhaps. Although it might be more of a case of them not knowing they have met before.
I just don't think they have met which is fine by me because I don't think Rey is Luke's daughter. And if she was Luke's and Luke knew about her then Leia would've known her too.

The main thing for me is that, even before this quote, Leia shows no signs of having known Rey. And if she did and she said something off screen about her in any capacity to Han, Chewie, Finn, Poe...whoever, then that would be a massive cop out and terrible writing.

So in-keeping with my inane habit of repeating myself, this is why I think the only way Rey can be Luke's is if he never knew she was born.