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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

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    Regardless of who is revealed as Rey's father I would expect that her mother won't simply be pushed aside. In fact, if it turns out that Luke is the father the mother will likely be even more important to the story... especially if she's still alive.
     
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    Well, I mean... Rey's mother dropping her off because they are being chased by the FO and then getting killed, thus never coming back, is a pretty popular theory.
     
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    Q: one last thing (sorry).. people regularly using the words "dropped off" on Jakku about Rey. Presuming too much? "Left" better?
    PH: "Abandoned" seems to fit best if that vision is any indicator.

    Q: But didn't they say they were coming back? Was the abandonment unintentional then?
    PH: did they say so or did Rey hope so?

    Q: A voice says so in the novelization ("I'll come back, sweetheart."), I guess she could've imagined it...?
    PH: she seemed very young. But I guess we'll find out in time.

    Q: in the book "Rey's Story" she claims to have no memory of her parents or why she's in Jakku. could she have been mind wiped?
    PH: Or just have been young. And repressing. Several options there.

    Q: is really women says to rey -sweetheart in Novellization The Force Awekens? "I will come back ...sweetheart?''
    PH: FAQ: In the shooting script (which is what Foster wrote the novel off of) it is identified as "MAN'S VOICE (V.O.)".

    Q: so it is officially canon that is a man's voice?
    PH: I would say so. That was the intent.
    Q: i thought i read at TFN that in the audio book it was a woman or the narrator says it was a woman. Can you comment?
    PH: I haven't heard the audiobook. Here's what the novel says: <image>
    Q: i thought i read at TFN that in the audio book it was a woman or the narrator says it was a woman. Can you comment?
    PH: I just listened to the audio book. It's a guy doing it, and it's not like he's doing his 'female' voice.
    Q: ok. I can't vouch for that myself. Just sayimg what I thought someone said on the JC forums. Could have been BS.
    PH: Well, I can see it being up for debate. The narrator doesn't seem to put any particular gender spin on it.

    Q: any reason why they cut it out of the film?
    PH: Not sure. But given that this scene is such a postproduction scene, the shooting script is really just a sketch.

    continued...

    http://www.ew.com/article/1997/11/14/movie-review-anastasia







    continued...
     
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    Rey is Anastasia Nikolajewna Romanowa...Noice...And Snoke is Rasputin?

    Royal Family it is then...But which...Palpatine or the Skwalker Amidala-lineage?
     
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    or Organa ;)
     
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    I like the idea of Rey being the king's daughter but ... who is the king in Star Wars ?

    Which character does fit to the king archetype ?
     
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    The Skywalker family would be the Romanov analogue here. They're the most important family in the galaxy.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-wars-jj-abrams-knows-855239 (January 2016)

    http://m.etonline.com/news/179765_colin_trevorrow_promises_satisfying_answer_to_star_wars_theories/ (January 2016)
     
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    Well, if Vader was space Jesus and Jesus was the King of Kings, then maybe Vader had some sperm frozen and perhaps 10 years after his demise someone got funky with it?
     
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    Palpatine was the king. A bad king indeed but he was ruling the whole thing.
     
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    "That was probably one of the mistakes I made in that. My thinking at the time was that Chewbacca, despite the pain he was feeling, was focused on trying to save Finn and getting him taken care of. So I tried to have Chewbacca go off with him and focus on Rey, and then have Rey find Leia and Leia find Rey. The idea [was] that both of them being strong with the Force and never having met, would [still] know about each other — that Leia would have been told about her beyond what we saw onscreen and Rey of course would have learned about Leia. And that reunion would be a meeting and a reunion all in one, and a sort of commiseration of their mutual loss." - JJ


    This at least that puts to bed the idea that Leia knew Rey before. I think it's also another nail in the Luke is her father theory.
    Sure, Luke may not have known he had a daughter. But that is literally the final vestige of that theory - because this essentially rules out the idea that Luke had a daughter who he believed died - because Leia would've recognised Rey.
    So literally the only way Rey can be Luke's is if he impregnated someone, probably without knowing, and she disappeared before giving birth.

    Which I don't buy.
     
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    Heaven knows I don't subscribe to the Skywalker theory, but that quote is contradicting itself. They never met and yet they are having a reunion.
     
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    For both to be true, it's a first-time meeting on-screen but a reunion between the two in the overall plot.

    Everyone in the movie doesn't know "Rey"'s name at first because that is not the name she was born with and she has repressed memories.







    ...and two separate authors wrote that Rey "calls herself Rey" which suggests that that idea comes from Lucasfilm not something that they coincidentally made up independently of each other.

     
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    Anastasia 1997 - fantasy. :confused:
    But now I have to watch this.
     
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    Its a good one...DO IT! NAOW :p
     
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    Great post. I agree, I mean at the end if she ends up being Luke's daughter it's OK BUT I totally agree with you that the brother vs sister conflict is way more heavy than cousin vs cousin.
     
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    It's on Netflix (U.S.) if you have it. That's how I watched it last year.
     
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    Um, why would Leia recognize Rey 15 years later. My sisters who are now in their 20s look nothing like they did when they were 5 years old

    It's kind of amazing how people "jump to conclusions" anytime we get a tiny piece of information.
     
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    What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/01/star-wars-the-force-awakens-jj-abrams-decodes-cast-photo



     
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    Because Leia is force sensitive. If you hadn't see your sisters since they were 5 you'd only have appearance to go on. Leia can connect to people through the Force.
     
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    But we don't know if Leia would have ever met her in any situation or at what age they met. The idea that Leia meets Rey when she's 2 and recognizes her through the force 18 years later is a bit much. This clearly isn't the "nail in the coffin" of the Luke theory.

    I love that we can speculate here, but let's try to keep "what we want to happen" on the sideline. Too many "I want to believe" moments here.
    What if Kylo turns out to be Luke's son?

    [​IMG]
     
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