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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Jedihopper

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    Well, if we're going off the commentary, which is still fairly vague in almost everything that's been discussed here ad nauseum - here's the bit on the Maz/Rey "whomever you're waiting for" scene:

    “She’s telling Rey what she needs to hear, which is, “Stop trying to go home, it’s not right, it’s a waste. And that the belonging you seek is not behind you, it’s ahead.” And this is the thing that she can’t accept right now. The idea that she has anything to do with this man that she thought was a myth just this morning, and now here she is being told that his destiny is somehow tied into her choices and her actions."

    So - in that moment, she's saying what Rey needs to hear to move her hero's journey forward...as has been speculated quite a bit on this thread.


    EDIT - then again, there's also this bit:

    “[…] But this moment, I think, is actually lovely and the idea that these two women who’d never met knew of each other, and they’re both Force-strong and they’re both bound by their loss and their strength.”

    Regarding the Rey/Leia hug at the end.

    So, either JJ is lying (still a 50% chance on that, lol) or that pretty much destroys Rey Solo and makes highly unlikely Rey Skywalker.

    And more than likely makes it a Rey Random, and possible ReyLo trilogy.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Round and round we go... :D
     
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  3. master_shaitan

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    Whatever dude. The actors are there to perform well in their roles not for us to praise them or bash them,also the actors opinions on things out of character don't matter in my opinion. In short when I watch TFA I see REY not Daisy Ridley, and that's what's important not this absurd hype around one persons comments.
     
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    It wasn't a bash, more like bringing an awareness. I don't know the Harry Potter timeline because I don't care about Harry Potter. :)
     
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    From JJ Abrams comments on the next media release : Sorry link doesn't work
    • "And this whole idea of going back to Jakku, it’s sort of this throwaway thing, but it was really important to me. It was interesting, when I was working with Larry, it wasn’t as important to him, and I’m sure for a good reason. But for some reason, I needed to know that she expected to and wanted to go back. […] And this idea that she won’t share with him here is, of course, because she feels like the only belonging she’s ever going to have is her family and if she leaves she’ll never get a chance to see them. So there was a very powerful idea that what she desperately wanted was belonging, which she’ll get, but just not how she expects.”

    • "One of the new relationships that we were focusing on was between Kylo Ren and Rey. They’ve never met but he’s heard of this girl. And so, now comes a moment when their meeting is inevitable. […] And now we’re back to our heroine. And this moment where she is about to, for the first time, be confronted by Kylo Ren, a character who she’s going to have a very interesting relationship with moving forward. […]"

    • "But I don’t think that in this moment this is a put on. I think that Ben is legitimately going to give up. But then, the idea was that in this moment, where he’s taking the lightsaber and offering it to him as a gesture, the sun finally is drained from the sky. And you see the light go away. And now they’re in this darkness. And darkness takes over. And as if this moment isn’t disturbing enough, he pushes the saber further in and says these terrifying two words. “Thank You.” In Kylo’s mind, what he has just done seals the deal. It’s the ultimate proof to Snoke that he is to be trusted, that he will not be seduced by the light. And I think, the instant that he’s done it, he regrets it.”
    It's all really interesting stuff. He stresses that Rey has never met Leia or Kylo prior to TFA, and has a bunch of other interesting things to say.
     
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    Yeah like she didn't know what a lightsaber is, that is understandable for a girl that thought Luke is a myth.
     
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    Too bad I can't link the whole page because Abrams comments are really interesting.

    Try to google : mummiesandlightsabers
     
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    I'm not falling for that one again. :eek:


    :p
     
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    ....more Reylo.....when will I ever see a rumor or report for VIII that I like?...the deal is getting worse all the time.... :confused:
     
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    Meh, this trilogy desperately needs some sexual tension/chemistry. It's very bland at the moment.
     
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    pretty much...

    I will watch it, I will be there opening night. For 8 and 9.

    But - if she's truly random, and just has the Force "because Grrrrll power" and ends up with Kylo, the murdering psycho - then I'll be very disappointed.

    They can throw in Luke and Force ghost Yoda all they want...it will just be nostalgia to distract from the fact that this "trilogy" adds up to killing Han, Luke being a failed Jedi after ROTJ, the Solo's splitting up, and not having the big 3 together in a scene...just a complete waste.

    Sort of like Indiana Jones 4 -

    [​IMG]

    "Nice try kid."

    But as far as I'm concerned, those movies ended with Indy, Henry, Marcus, and Salah riding off into the sunset. The tarzan/alien one with old Indy doesn't count for me.
     
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    Y'all crack me up. It would be a huge stretch for Rey to end up with Kylo. We've been though this marry go round over and over. The story of the monster falling in love with a girl and being redeemed is pretty common and a powerful story arc. If done well it would be great story-line.

    Kylo sealed his ultimate fate already. I could envision a scenario where Kylo survives this trilogy and helps defeat Snoke. They could do that and set Kylo up as the big bad in the next trilogy. Either way, he's never riding off into the sunset with Rey.
     
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    I don't read Reylo out of JJ's infos.
    With the latest posts in mind Luke will do his best to teach Rey his most important lecture. War and agression lead to darkness, no matter if a Jedi or a Sith is the agressor.
    Mercy and peace are essential.
     
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    yeah, I'm ok with that - her helping him come back to the light and then him sacrificing/fighting Snoke and escaping as a nomad...OR coming back stronger later. It's just the fairy tell ending I would have an issue with. But you seem to agree there.

    And if done well, it could be great.

    But I remain skeptical until I see it.

    (however - I do concede that most evidence is pointing towards random now. Unless they are all in on a big cover-up, but I doubt it)
     
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    Just write something and link it;).
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 1, 2016, Original Post Date: Nov 1, 2016 ---
    Yeah maybe but there is another way to connect to the big3, without relying on bloodline that could work, since it is in character of Han Solo.
    The family theme in star wars is always a bit blasted up and problematic. Not the pink ponyland: family, marriage and kids fantasy. And we know that force wielder pop up all over the galaxy without having force sensitive parents. When Han and Leia split up and he went back to racing, he could have enjoyed his fame a bit too much;).
     
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    He did have something he wanted to tell Leia...

    Maybe he slept with Mrs Snoke and Rey was the result?

    :p
     
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    Sigh, ok back to small galaxy syndrome:(.
     
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    Yeah not going to happen. There's also the fact that in Bloodlines, 6 years before TFA and well after Rey would been born Han and Leia are painted as still very much in love. I dont know what you mean by "split up When Han went back to racing". Han and Leia didnt split up unitl at least 6 years prior to TFA, when Ben went bad.

    This is a family saga. It has nothing to do with the galaxy being small anymore than focusing mainly on Hogwarts makes the wizarding world small. Were focusing on a particular story. Too many new characters makes a story muddle and feel disjointed.
     
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