SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

“The idea that Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Princess Leia, [that] was forty years ago. So for someone who’s nineteen years old, they’re myths. Who knows what they know about them? People wouldn’t even know who some of these characters are. The thing that grabbed me was that feeling of a new, young character… asking ‘who is Luke Skywalker?’ And I don’t know why, but f*** that’s so cool. The idea that there would be a discovery, these would be kids who didn’t see Star Wars themselves, but would be in this universe.”

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These clips confirm to me the role of the legends. It's about how their legacy lives on rather than who they are related to. JJ and co wanted toe expand the story and open it up to a new generation. Just on a metaphorical level, that doesn't work so well with Rey Skywalker. Kylo Ren is the Vader story continued.


And then there is this from Daisy:

And besides, Ridley already knows who Rey's parents are -- and she doesn't think it's that big of a deal. "I think the amazing thing about [Episode VII] is that Finn and Rey don't come from anywhere, and they find a place," Ridley, who's currently filming Rian Johnson's Star Wars: Episode VIII, said. "So to me, it's funny that people think it's so important because I don't really think it is."

This chimes with my view of her "obvious" comment. For me she was saying that it is obvious that her parents are dead or that it isn't who they are that is importnat but what happened to them. There is a twin story being told in TFA with Rey and Finn. Both were essentially orphans without a real or full name. But they found their family with each other and the old legends (Daisy said that in an interview too).

 

‘I thought a lot was answered in “The Force Awakens”,’ she said. ‘Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone, and we were chatting away and I realised that oh, in their minds it’s not answered at all!’

It was far from obvious that she is Rey Skywalker or Rey Solo. It may be obvious in some ways to a season Star Wars nerd who can remind people that Jake LLoyd Anakin was "good at fixing things", but not to the casual viewer that Daidy alludes to here. Why would people find it obvious that she was Luke or Han's daughter? What they might see that was obvious however, was that Rey and Finn both didn't have families and both never thought they would see them again. Finn says as much and then Maz confirms the same to Rey about her parents ("they're never coming back"). But then, as I say, Rey and Finn find family in each other and in Han, Chewie, Leia, Luke, bb8 etc. That is the obvious story and it ties in exactly with the story JJ talked about wanting to tell.

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Classic Star Wars motif. And we've seen how much TFA liked to re-hash ANH in many other ways.

See my above post. I don't see what is so obvious about it to the normal cinema goer.

So is Kylo Ren. But the point is that if she is Luke's then she is already a part of that legacy. By putting her outside of it it works as a metaphor for both bringing people into Star Wars but also saying how anyone can be special.

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I find it curious how all the remarks about that interview say "Daisy thinks it is obvious who her parents are" when she doesn't say anything of the sort. She refers to what her parentage means rather than who they are. And I don't think who they are is all that important. Rey's character is about where she is heading - and she is making a family along the way.

"Whomever you're waiting for back on Jakku...they're never coming back".

That is the only obvious statement. And it tells us that Rey realises that she knows deep down her parents are dead. This doesn't rule out Luke as her father. But that above interview certainly isn't evidence for it.

 

No one got the concept, the theme - that her parents are irrelevant. In the past. Never coming back. But that she has a family now in those she meets - Finn etc. She has said this in many other interviews.

Maybe. But I hope not. I want originality - hence why I wasn't keen on TFA but have hopes for VIII (which forms part of my views on Rey's parentage).

Hero shpero. Kenobi was the hero for large parts of the PT.
Star Wars is about Darth Vader and his family. But mostly Darth. It isn't about who is the main hero and villain. Ren carries on the Vader story. Rey, Finn and Poe bring something new.

And she may be an "every man", as Luke was, but it will be her Skywalker blood that makes her special.

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You sure about that?:

 

Show me where it says "I think it is obvious who my parents are".

Firstly, I don't want Rey Skywalker because I think that changes Luke's character. My opinion but there you go.
Secondly, I don't want to see a repeat of the OT which I fear Rey Skywalker would do because of how she was set up in TFA and where it would likely lead.
Thirdly, I don't think that is what they're going to do based on X amount of reasons.
Fourthly, I think Rey Skywalker would likely prevent them from telling any new stories in the future that aren't about the Skywalker's and don't derive from said families powerful gene pool.

POV.

It may once have been about Luke but not anymore. Not after Vader became his father and the PT was made. It became the story of Darth Vader and it is clear that they continuing that story with Kylo Ren.

You said I misquoted the scene. Maz does say "they're never coming back". Follow the link to YouTube.

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I mean, just listen to the interview:

http://www.mtv.com/news/video/2865182/daisy-ridley-star-wars-episode-8-darker/

If she were Luke's her origins WOULD BE IMPORTANT. And Rey talks about how the relationships she is making NOW are more important than where she comes from.

Not evidence but again, it reflects how I read the film.

 

...obvious that the story was about how she and Finn didn't come from anywhere but are now each others family.

So Han thinks that Rey might be Luke's daughter but at this point has little intention to take her to see Leia? Okaaaaay.

One step at a time.
Maz looks inside Rey and reveals what REY KNOWS DEEP DOWN - That her family are never coming back. When someone thinks that they think these people are dead. If they didn't think they were dead then they'd think "they're probably not coming back".

Maz then says BUT there is still someone (ie NOT REY'S FAMILY) that can come back - Luke. He can come back from where he is and help save the galaxy. And yes, Maz then pushes Rey forward and confirms exactly what Daisy has been saying - the belonging you seek is ahead of you - with Finn, Han, Leia, Luke, BB8, Chewie etc. That your parents are gone but you can find your place in the galaxy, you can love and be loved. It would be crazy for a wise character like Maz to first be absolute about her families fate and then to separate Luke from them (BUT there is someone who still could) yet at the same time think Luke was her dad. It doesn't make sense.

Why was Luke significant? Because he had his father's genes.

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Anyway, she definitely isn't a Solo:

 

She never says it was obvious who her parents are. Ever. That is my point.

So Han could ditch them by getting Maz to lend them a clean ship.

Maz says "never coming back". Not aren't. Never is absolute.

Yes, she will find her belonging by finding Luke. She is destined to become a Jedi. The Force is speaking to her.

No, you're missing my point. Maz only knows what Rey feels deep down. And Rey feels that her parents are never coming back, deep down. Maybe that is intuition. Maybe that is cold hard facts. Or maybe she is wrong. Either way, Maz strikes a cord, the words reflect that they're likely dead and Maz goes with that. If Maz thought for a second that Luke was her father why would she say "never coming back"? Doesn't make sense.

The only reason Luke became the hero was because of his bloodline. Sure, he had to choose to join the adventure but if he wasn't a Skywalker then there would've been no adventure to choose. That story has been told. The story of being born with great power - through Anakin, Luke and now Ren. Rey provides a chance for something different. Look at it this way - Ren thinks he deserves to rule the galaxy because of his bloodline. Perhaps someone from more lowly origins would be the best person to convince him (redeem) otherwise?

 

She doesn't just come close, she is explicit - "WHOMEVER YOU'RE WAITING FOR IS NEVER COMING BACK" - Rey is waiting for her family. Rey stated this. Maz is only saying what Rey knows deep down.

And then Maz says BUT. BUT. BUT! there is someone that still could. The BUT separates Luke from the family that Rey is waiting for.

She is referring to rey's family as Rey says she is waiting for her family. Maz says "they're never coming back". Ergo, her family is never coming back.

Maz is saying that Rey's belonging is ahead of her - as a Jedi. She is telling Rey that the past is irrelevant. She can find belonging by going forward. That then becomes true as she finds family with Finn, Han etc.

 

Right, look at it this way - is is obvious that Luke is her father?
No it isn't. A lot of people thought it was Han.
What was obvious was the idea that Daisy describes - that her and Finn have no family but make one over the movie.

Because he wanted to help them on their mission but didn't want to take them himself.
Maz even tries to convince Han that he has to take them to Leia.
Ergo, Han wasn't planning on taking Rey to Leia - even though you say he knows she is her niece? Surely he'd think it important to tell her that?

Poor analogy. If you're waiting at home for your loved ones who go out one night and don't return and then someone says "they're never coming back", what does that mean?

Disagree. See above x 301 pages.

But if Maz thinks Luke is her family she wouldn't use the term "never coming back" nor would she think it and she'd not separate Luke from her family by saying "BUT...".

Luke was the hero. I'm just saying he was significant in the first place because of his bloodline.

No, you didn't show me anything. I find the idea of retelling the Skywalker story dull because it will always be anchored by their origins. By their inherent power. And by Vader's legacy. I'm saying there is greater chance for originality if we move away from that and less chances of a bad re-hash in repeating it.

 

Again, show me the quote where she says it is obvious who her parents are.

Maybe you should just tell me what you think happened?

And what if the person that told you this knew that your father was actually alive?

Eh?

If Luke is the father and he is alive then there is always a chance he would go back.

Yes and Vader was a henchman. What's your point? I take into account the whole story - not just the parts that suit my argument

I proved otherwise. You then manipulated by ideas to suit your own.