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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    288 vote(s)
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  3. Undecided

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  1. Canadian Ronin

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    When someone is surprised that others didn't get it, that means they thought it was............?

    Have you not seen the movie?

    And then say someone else (ie - not the people your waiting for) is out there and you will find family with him? I'd probably think thats my dad.

    Maybe. Is it not possible there are reasons he wouldn't?

    But you can't claim that the OT is about Vader when it only became about Vader 20 years after it was release. The OT is about Luke.

    No you didn't - I showed you how with very minor tweeks (likely just dialog) all your original ideas still work.
     
  2. master_shaitan

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    Oh you can't post it, because it doesn't exist. Point proved.

    Well, I've explained twice now what Han is doing and you've said I am wrong. I'd love to hear your interpretation.

    Lol. Ok, whatever you say!

    C Ronin: I'm waiting for my family
    Person X: They're never coming back
    C Ronin: [Cries]
    Person X: But there is someone who still could....
    C Ronin: Oh right, I found that clue to where that superhero who can save the galaxy lives...
    Person X: Right, and he can teach you to be a superhero...
    C Ronin: He's my father?!
    Person X: Wait? What? I just said your family is dead!

    I presume you're referring to the cmment about Luke returning to Jakku? (Please quote properly as it is very hard to follow).
    Like I say, he might. He might not. But Maz says her family never will.

    I can. I will. And it's maker agrees.

    You really didn't. The only one you caused doubt with was in Rey shagging her cousin - and only because the Skywalker's have form.
     
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    We've alls een Daisy say what I'ms aying she did. When you're surprised someone didn't get something, you think that thing was............. ?

    They go to see Maz to find the resistence and Leia. Han isn't avoiding taking Rey to Leia, he is TRYING to get find Leia.

    Except no one said Rey's family is dead.

    So if Maz knows Luke won't return to Jakku for reason X...............

    Well if you want to be wrong about the OT, I guess I can't stop you.

    Its exactly what I did. Other's even told you its what I did. If you need me to do it again, re-post all your story ideas (this time, leave the back story ones out).
     
  4. master_shaitan

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    Obvious - because they're all thinking about it the wrong way.

    No. Han doesn't want to go to Leia. He says he is getting a clean ship for Rey and Finn. That's. why he takes them to Maz. And when he is there Maz tries to convince him to go to Leia as well. He might not have gone with them and in the end Leia comes to him.

    My point was that if Han knew Rey was Luke's kid, wouldn't he have thought it important to take her to Leia so he could tell her?!?!

    Sigh. We were working off an analogy. If your loved ones go out one night and don't return and someone says they aren't coming back, what does that mean? People take that to mean they're dead.

    How would Maz know this?

    Basing opinions on Star Wars whilst ignoring 6 films is pretty silly.

    They weren't backstory ones. They were origins that informed upon the character and what actions she would take going forward.You didn't get it. That's fine. If you want to discuss it again, go back to whatever page it was on and try again.
     
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    Show me in the script and in video where Han says he is going to get them a"clean ship" for them. If he was going to get a clean ship for them, why did Finn take off? What does Maz say to convince him to go to Leia?

    It means they aren't coming back.

    How does Maz know her family isn't coming back?

    Assuming the OT was written to be about Anakin and not Luke is whats silly.

    There were, you even agreed when I deleted those ones. And your unwilling to post thema gain is very telling.
     
  6. master_shaitan

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    Oh mate. You give me no choice:

    EXT. MAZ'S CASTLE - DAY
    Han walks them to the castle.

    FINN
    Solo, why are we here again?

    HAN
    To get your droid on a clean ship.

    Clean?

    REY

    (CONTINUED)

    CONTINUED:

    HAN
    Do you think it was luck that Chewie and I found the Falcon? If we can find it on our scanners, the First Order's not far behind. Want to get BB-8 to the Resistance? Maz Kanata is our best bet.


    LATER...

    MAZ
    A map to Skywalker himself? You're

    right back in the mess.

    HAN
    Maz, I need you to get this droid to

    Leia.

    (CONTINUED)

    CUT TO:

    CONTINUED:

    MAZ
    Hmm. No. You've been running away

    from this fight for too long. Han, nyakee nago wadda. Go home!

    HAN
    Leia doesn't want to see me.


    Ever.

    Exactly.

    Tell that to George.

    I didn't. I just picked my battles.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 23, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 23, 2017 ---
    This is now hilarious.

     
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    Rey Is Luke’s kid.

    If you want to finish the Skywalker saga, then it’s pretty dour to just have the last Skywalker be an emo pos.

    Poe and Finn are the non Skywalker characters. But Rey is. Given Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow’s approach, both of them have talked about respect the Prequels. Trevorrow said that he is going to tie in everything together in this 9 part saga.

    If this is skywalker saga, then 789 are about the legacy of Vader, his grandchildren follow different paths. Rey and Ren.

    It matters who Rey is. If you don’t know her backstory and just have some vague idea that she’s just some scavenger then it’s hard to care. If you wanted to establish as Rey as someone who isn’t a Skywalker, why cloud it all in a mystery box? What is the purpose of that?
     
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    LMAO!!!!!!!!

    ANd what does Rey intend to do once they find this ship to get themto the resistance?
     
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    And her grandfather. Regardless of whether it's Luke or Leia.

    To me I think it seems that Leia is sending Rey to Luke... because she's not her mother, she's her Aunt, and she believes Luke and Rey need each other. (I'm guessing.)

    Luke teaching his daughter the ways of the force would be an amazing new twist to the Master/Padawan dynamic.

    Could Rey just be another Jedi generated by the force like Anakin? Sure. There's that correlation with Rey's talents like young Anakin's. But I doubt it. She's like Anakin and Luke for a reason. To draw direct lines of their paths to hers. Her force dream when touching Anakin's lightsaber.

    C'mon. Luke's reaction to her, the look in her eyes... for that to turn into "So, who are you?" Or some "I've felt you're presence for quite some time."

    If they cleverly make her NOT a Skywalker, I'm ok with that... but to me, they've dropped SO MANY HINTS, that I don't know how they'd pull that switch.
     
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    its almost as if, if you knew she was lukes daughter itd seem obvious.......
     
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    We were talking about Han?
     
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    You're right aout Han not going to see Leia, I forgot that.

    But Rey then tells Finn he can't go they have to get BB8 back to the resistance. Seems od if Han doesn't want Rey to get to Leia is ridiculous. If that was the case, he'd take her back to Jakku BEFORE going to Maz's.
     
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    Eh? I didn't say Han doesn't want her to get to Leia! I said if Han knew she was Leia's neice he'd want Leia to know that. He'd think it important. But he's just going to stick her on a ship and send her there.
     
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    In that case I misunderstood when you said - Maz even tries to convince Han that he has to take them to Leia.
    Ergo, Han wasn't planning on taking Rey to Leia - even though you say he knows she is her niece? Surely he'd think it important to tell her that?

    So Han doesn't want to take her, because he doesn't think Leia wants to see him. But clearly he thinks its important enough for Rey to get to Leia instead of just taking her back to Jakku.

    Now why would that be? Han MUST have some idea of who she is and/or what she can do if he is going to go these lengths and expense to get Rey and co. to Leia.
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    You did try to charactize it like - So Han thinks that Rey might be Luke's daughter but at this point has little intention to take her to see Leia? Okaaaaay.

    Even though he is trying to get the droid to Leia, and Rey is going with the Droid.
     
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    And what if Leia doesn't realise what Han allegedly does? That is my point!

    If this is the long lost daughter of luke, it's pretty important that Han tells Leia.
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    Luke being daddy will need a clever story for me. And his look is hardly that of a father who's long lost daughter just turned up. It's more like the look of a defeated teacher knowing that he is being asked to return to the fight that has cursed his entire life.
     
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    depends why Han realized it. If Rey looks identical to her mother, Leia will figure it out. Maybe the reason Han realized it was so obvious he knows Leia will. Maybe he'll tell Maz who will send word with them. Why is it so important for Han to tell Leia in person?

    Maybe its a defeated father who never wanted to his daughter caught up in what he is.
     
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    If Ep VIII is about Luke Skywalker as the central character, is this enough for this saga to be about the Skywalker or do we need a dozen more ?
     
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    Sorry @Bandini and @master_shaitan, I have another take on it...

    Episode VIII: The Last Jedi = No more PT era Jedi. Just sayin'... ;)
     
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    Or Han just had no idea who Rey was - hence why there is no reaction to how she looks, why he was willing to dump her on the next habitable planet, why he didn't seem to understand why she wanted to go back to Jakku, why he didn't plan to escort her to her auntie and ensure they know it is Luke's daughter...

    Look, you could be right. I'm just saying that if you are, TFA stinks even more than I first thought.


    It's simply referring to Luke. He is the last Jedi. Yoda said it. The Force Awakens crawl said it. And now the VIII title says it. He's the last Jedi and it is about him passing on the torch to the next generation:

    Rey Binks :confused:
     
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    The St, sure.

    But is luke going to be the main character going forward to X, XI and beyond?
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    you mean the gambler didn't have tell and could hide his emotions? I'm shocked.

    he wasn't willing to dump her anywhere or he would have. ANd he did take steps to make sure he got to Leia.
     
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