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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

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  2. No

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    In an absolute neutrality, this trailer isn't a big help for this question.
     
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    That was the first thing that popped into my mind when he said it. And while I certainly think Hamill is smart enough, and savy enough, to pull off some reverse-psychology-trolling (it's possible), hearing him make that joke pushed the needle a tiny bit toward the "Not Luke's Daughter" side of the meter for me.
     
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    That is just what he wanted you to think!
     
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    Straw man alert!
    You said:

    I still say the biggest impediment to Rey being some dark side child whose parents Luke killed... is the fact that I just don't see that being a part of Luke's character any more. I am not necessarily trying to say he is a pacifist, but Luke has seriously removed himself, apparently straight away after the Battle of Endor, from any direct conflict in the galaxy.

    He can certainly be a protector and defender if attacked, but I don't see him as having been engaged in actively hunting down and killing remnant Imperials...

    I just pointed out that Luke is far from a pacifist and is hunting down imperials. However, I didn't say Rey's folks were stormtroopers. Just saying Luke is using his saber.

    Again, never said that.
    What if Luke came across servants of Palpatine and they tried to kill him? Or what if in a show of force power, Luke accidentally kills them.

    Though this is what he is doing in the process of seeking Jedi lore...

    It doesn't exist. The stuff you're talking about is simply info on Leia's past that she wants to keep secret because of who daddy really was.


    You still then have to explain how Han and Leia lose their child and without knowing she is dead, give up on her. Also have to explain why no one recognises her.

    I'd be going over a lot of old ground if I reply to the rest. Hopefully the info coming out of SWCC will be enough for you to move away from your theory somewhat and accept change. ;)
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    “I certainly foresee movies past nine. Whether or not we carry on the Skywalker saga… you know, George always intended nine movies, and whether we continue that or not is something we’re talking about right now. If the story warrants it, we’ll absolutely do it. If it actually inspires new ideas, then we’ll probably head in that direction. We just don’t know yet.” - KK
     
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    Rey is Leia's child, take it to the bank =]
     
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    Looking at different social media accounts that support different theories. It is funny how they use the same evidence to come to completely different conclusions.

    for example - when TLJ panel specifically ask if Rey is a skywalker

    pro rey kenobi account = they definitely wouldn't mention this theory so many times if true.

    pro Rey Skywalker account = They are confirming without confirming that she is a Skywalker.


    It is something i noticed today. Personally as a Rey Kenobi fan at heart, this trailer and everything else is making me shift to a Rey random/ Rey not Skywalker or Kenobi position.
     
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    "There are lots of surprises in this movie. And there's lots of twists and turns. And I really want people to experience those when they see the movie for the first time, you know. And how we address (about Rey's parentage) and how you feel about it, and what happens with that, is one of them."

     
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    I really doubt he can pull a reveal about Rey Parents that is going to surprise.
    I am glad that teasing will be finished.
     
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    I don't think Rey has to be a Skywalker or Solo, but I think she will be. I'm leaning more heavily in the direction of Rey Skywalker at the moment.

    The problem with her being random is that we already have so many things going on in the story, raising the question of some other family origin could possibly create a distraction.
     
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    The problem with Rando is they built this up to much thus she needs to be a new Chosen One and/or be related to one or two major bloodlines.
    They brought it on themselves.
     
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    Mark Hamill said on Day 2 of Celebration 2017 that Rey is Luke's daughter.
    Close thread.
    PLEASE!
    ;)
     
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    He also called Finn his son so....
    So I guess Reylos can pack their bags.

    Finn marries Rey and is thus Luke's Son In Law.

    Am I doing this right?
     
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    100% debunked when Mark said "My Daugh..." today at the panel
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    THEY never built it up. WE did.
     
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    I dont think that distinction really matters at this point. It was built up and the fanbase expects a reveal to be delivered.
     
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    It's curious that Rian Johnson answered the GMA question by saying that Rey's parentage question will be addressed, rather than confirming to the interviewer that we will find out who her parents were. It's a subtle difference in the answer, which makes me think it's possible that the answer to Rey's parentage question is that she has no parents at all, i.e., Rey is some kind of "lab creation". (Not another "virgin-birth chosen one" though because that would still require a mother.)
     
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    Or...the movie's reveal will be that Kylo Ren is her brother, not a parentage reveal like Episode V. Obviously the audience will put it together that they share the same parents.
     
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    I guess but seems weird Kylo would reveal that now and not I dont know when he was trying to convert Rey earlier.
     
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    Confirming that we will find out who are Rey's parents does not constrain the manner of the reveal nor who could be her parents, but it does rule out the possibility of Rey having no parents. It's interesting that Rian's answer is so vague even the latter possibility could not be excluded. I don't know, perhaps I am parsing his answer too much.

    It is interesting that in the trailer, when "light" was mentioned in the voice over, the image showed Leia rather than Luke, and when "darkness" was mentioned, the image showed a mask associated with Ben rather than something associated with Snoke. It does suggest that the Solo family is central to the lightside vs darkside conflict in the ST.
     
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    This should sway those who are undecided:

    Nightline: Everybody wants to know - who [Rey] is, where your from, who your parents are. Will that all be answered in Star Wars: The Last Jedi?

    DR: Um, it's very interesting because I didn't know - Mark [Hamill] was telling me - I didn't know that when Darth Vader said 'I am your father' - people didn't believe it. They didn't believe it was true. And it was interesting because at the end of The Force Awakens, I thought everyone was going to be like, 'oh cool, that's been answered,' but it hasn't. And I think even though a lot of questions are answered in The Last Jedi, I think it's still that thing of discovery.


    In TFA:

    Is it apparent/likely that she is a Solo? No.
    Is it apparent/likely that she is a Skywalker? No.
    Is it apparent/likely that her parents are dead? Yes.
     
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