SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Anybody notice the music box-esque sound mixed in with the force theme and opening in the TLJ teaser? Like a lullaby. The teaser opens in a very dreamy kind of mood.

Spoiler: Bloodline

When Leia is on screen (4 second audio clip) - I've listened with headphones and it could be Leia saying "I love you" from The Empire Strikes Back or what other people have suggested (seems more of a stretch after listening with headphones) "Help me, Obi-Wan". Rey's theme is definitely teased to introduce Leia - and not Leia's own theme. For Kylo Ren's helmet, you hear Vader's breathing and then Kylo Ren's theme.

 

If she's not Skywalker, then why beat around the bush? The speculation could have been killed right at the start. Instead of stringing the fans along. It's a cheap tactic.

 

Actually, the music went dissonant very quickly like if the start of the movie is all but what people expect.

 

You don't really need to be sorry

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Well, let's say your right. Plagueis tried. Plagueis or Snoke, Plagueis being = Snoke, or whomever the Dark Force from the U.R.is, he's trying from a while.
The implications on the cosmic force would be huge.
What are the consequeces on the destinies?
If one can manipulate the cosmic force, everything can be manipuleted.... time and space too I fear.
The other question is, is the cosmic force uncapable of a reaction? If it is, what this reaction may be?

Don't have answers, I'm just try to figure it.

 

I think it's a very interesting hint. Something to think about... bravo.

 

Without getting too far off topic I think this probably where the biggest source of lore will come from in this trilogy. Snoke I assume has a completely new way at looking at the dark side of the force. This probably due to him being a new character and the possibility he's from the unknown regions. Snoke sees Vader's failure was his sentiment towards his son. Vader failed as a Sith lord for the same reason he failed as a Jedi. His attachments to his family. Kylo Ren is attempting to severe that connection by killing his own father.

 

@DailyPlunge so, in the end.... All we need is love!

The Beatles = the Whills
or Jhon Lennon = the Chosen One

I guess I can like it

Seriusly speaking.... yours it's (another) clever addition.
And I don't think we're really getting out of topic.

If we think about it, to understand who Rey is (and so who her parents are) probably we have to change prospective.
First we have to figure where the ST heads on a general level.
Rey's origins must be those that serve better the story they're telling.

 

Balance restored.

 

But it was supposed to be balanced after Anakin's death.

So if the balance wasn't restored when he died, he wasn't indeed the chosen one.

 

He meant the vote.

 

Oops.

But the question's still there considering the teaser.

 

I think I've changed it 10 times of late to keep it balanced.
Geez. And these people call themselves fans

 

So the millenary prophecy lasted like 2 years ?

That's a bit of a reach.

 

If she's not a Skywalker, there better be some reason they made a mystery of her parents. This is a Star Wars movie, so they obviously knew everyone was going to wonder about Rey's parents. If the answer turns out to be uninteresting, they will have essentially gone out of their way to let down the audience.

 

Woah, it's a 40/20/40 split between a Yes/Undecided/No; that's pretty neat!

About the Cosmic Force becoming dormant 30 years before TFA (so, at the end of ROTJ): I think this absolutely has something to do with Anakin bringing balance to the Force.

Sure, Snoke was out there and so was Luke, along with their respective followed, but this was a period with no direct conflict between Force users and an era post-Chosen One. What happened with Luke's academy might be deemed a conflict, but I'm going to call it as I see it: it was a one-sided massacre judging from what we see in TFA, and, if the TLJ teaser carries any weight, it's likely Luke wasn't present during this time.

I think that bringing balance to the Force by destroying the Sith at the end of ROTJ not only brought balance to the Force, which many have questioned, but also returned it to its "resting" state of dormancy, much like when the outer shell of an atom in basic chemistry becomes "full", the atom is virtually unreactive. And, to follow this analogy further, this means that either something inside or outside of the atom itself fundamentally changed (to awaken the cosmic Force) for it to once again become reactive to the state of the galaxy and it's inhabitants.

It's possible, perhaps even likely, that Luke and his academy were maintaining that Balance, as Lor San Tekka alluded to at the start of TFA, and Luke was able to do so until the first (currently known) direct conflicting interaction since the events that unraveled on the second Death Star some thirty years before, when Kylo is using the Force to prove Rey on Starkiller Base.

 

If there is no reason in the plot to talk about this now because this isn't just the time in the story yet to talk about that. There is nothing in Finn's story about his parents too and nobody had been theorizing on this subject except enumerating every black character in the saga.

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25 years is a ridiculous amount of time for a timeless prophecy. The balance is the balance, it just don't came out for no reason in 25 short years.

At least, Earth's golden age is supposed to last 1000 years.

That could be the point of Luke's disappointment. All this for 25 years.

Who's trying the Force to fool ?

And if Rey is supposed to bring it again 25 years only after the death of the chosen one, how long would it last ? 1 year ?