SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Heaven help us....

 

I didn't say Rey was his kid. Just that he married her mother.... after he killed her father!

This is a ludicrous theory.

 

It will fit in when Disney launches the Star Wars soap opera...coming to ABC this fall

 

I think they should just reveal Rey’s parents through the Maury show and release it on youtube. Ben and Luke fight over one of them being the dad. When Luke is revealed to be the dad, Ben just smashes Maury’s chairs with his saber.

 

Access Hollywood: How is [The Last Jedi] changing the [Star Wars] game?
Rian Johnson: Well I tried to - I don't know if this'll be an answer - but I tried to kind of not think in those terms 'cause I feel like - on both sides - like I didn't...I was never thinking like, 'Oh, this'll pay homage to this! Oh, this is like that!' But, and I was also never thinking, 'Oh, we're gonna throw this away and do this and we're gonna do this different!' 'cause I think that just leads to bad story choices. For me, it was just like, 'Where should these characters go next?' and what's the most interesting way of telling that. That having been said, there's, you know, this stuff is mythology for those of us who grew up with it and there is just some bedrock stuff that's built into our brains that is Star Wars. And there is like [George] Lucas has said - these movies do rhyme with each other in thematic ways and they have things that reflect things in the previous movies. And so there are ways that through that storytelling process - those are going to happen. But, I hope it's still surprising, I hope there's still enough fresh stuff, I hope we strike a balance.

[QUOTES] Words From Production Members After The Release Of The Force Awakens: Rian Johnson

 

They should bring back the 2 headed alien as a talk show host Maury on one side and Springer on the other. His name is Povic Spring, sensationalist holocast reporter.

 

I personally find it highly improbable that Rey is either a Skywalker or a Solo, for many reasons. I will focus on only one of those reasons.

Leia.

Leia is definitely force sensitive. Maybe not as strong as Luke and all that, but she can sense things. In the novels, Leia "reaches out with the force", and even way back in Empire, she is able to hear Luke. She also can immediately sense when Han is killed.

So why wouldn't she be able to sense who Rey was? Even if she was believed to be dead, I have to believe that Leia would have at least felt SOMETHING.

Maybe we will find out in TLJ that Leia did sense something, and she just pretended she didn't, who knows. But to me, it sure seemed like nobody knew who the hell she was.

 

I think Rey’s mother (maybe a father too idk) had her and freaked out because she was doing things they never saw a child do so they sought out the leader of the church of the Force, Lor San Tekka. He told them the girl needed to meet with Luke Skywalker and be taken in to his Jedi Academy. Luke came to meet her and after studying her he realized her potential was quite extreme. Luke then feels a huge disturbance in the force and returns to the academy to see it destroyed. He tells her parents instead of bringing her there take her to jakku and leave her there in case someone else hears of her and comes looking. Ben knew where Luke had gone and why and it bothered him that rumors of this girl made her out to be potentially as powerful as his grandfather. Ben thought that being of the Skywalker bloodline meant that he was and always would be the next great Jedi master. Already having his doubts about Luke and his new Jedi order (because of his entitled power complex) coupled with Snoke able to fuel Ben’s curiosity toward the darkside from a far (maybe) just like his father, Luke directing his attention away from Ben was the tipping point for him and he embraced the rage. Snoke is the character that is hard to really figure out how he fits in but in Rey's case I think she is just another version of Anakin. NOT him reincarnated just another version of a savior. I think the force just influences a new savior to be born in order to balance itself if it goes unbalanced for so long. Sort of how your body fights off a sickness. I think one of the biggest things they "take a risk on" is Luke confirms the prophecy is basically crap and the force keeps trying until one of them succeeds.

 

Yeah you're definitely right about the only way she can be a Skywalker is if she is Luke's unknown daughter. I just don't think that's what it's going to be (or maybe I just don't want it). I know Star Wars is the "Skywalker Saga", but I am a big fan of Kylo Ren being the driving force behind that Saga, since he is of Skywalker blood.

 

Did Vader sense Leia was related to him? Luke and Leia didn't really put it together until Yoda said something. The idea that the characters would recognize that they're related at first sight/sense isn't consistent with what has happened in previous movies.

 

The Ahsoka novel released late last year explores when previous;y established Force connections are broken off between characters.

https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?posts/358851/

See also:

https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?posts/382617/

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More simply I think he means Rey and Kylo Ren represent the rhyming (hero and villain siblings are a new rhyme not a repeat) and Finn and Poe represent more of the new stories so that it is balanced though I wouldn't be surprised to see a new rhyme or two in there as well.

 

Someone other than Rey knows her story or suspects something. Maz being a good candidate. She had the saber, was compelled to give it to her and was pushing her towards Luke. She doesn't tell Rey "you're family isn't coming back for you" because perhaps she suspects it wasn't her family and that Rey has a cover story or her own interpretation of what happened, but that it's possibly wrong. There's also a chance that what Rey has been telling everyone isn't the real story.

 

Ty for the info! Isn't there also the straight-up parents recogizing their own kids thing, though? My theory is that Luke never knew Rey, 'cause I feel that if he did, that hairdo would kinda give it away...

The "rhyming" argument, based off of the GL quote, always struck me as exceptionally vague and maleable to nearly any SW theory argument...

 

These are the rhymes.

PT: surrogate brother vs. surrogate brother*
OT: son vs. father
ST: sister vs. brother

* Revenge of the Sith (2005) (Obi-Wan: "You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you.")
Darth Vader: Sith Lord (2017) biography ("And [Anakin] and Obi-Wan, once suspicious of each other, became as close as brothers. But siblings fight--and Anakin and Obi-Wan often clashed as master and apprentice")

 

I believe Finn and Poe friendship rhymes or to say it better mirrors that Anakin and Obi Wan...

 

yet another possibility that we don't discuss often.

Rey tells BB8 in a quirky way that her family will be back someday.
She sees a young Rey in the force back being left behind with Unkar... she then runs off upset saying that she's never touching the saber again.

what if she's not being honest about everything? what if she was upset and ran out of the castle because she knew that the vision was a lie? that perhaps the force was showing her what she has been trying to convince herself of to get that very reaction?

perhaps something so traumatic that she doesn't want to remember?
perhaps something very bad that she caused...so she has tried to forget it, and won't reveal the truth? perhaps she was having Jean Grey incidents as a child?

i honestly feel that almost any possibility is possible at this point. i'm hoping it's a great story regardless of her parentage.

 

Wouldn't surrogate brother vs surrogate brother, father vs son, and cousin vs cousin cover a broader spectrum of relationships within a family than repeating sibling vs sibling, though?

Daughter of the Son vs Son of the Daughter. Luke must beg forgiveness of his daughter, when he had previously granted forgiveness to his own father. Leia must forgive son as she never forgave her own father. Rey represents Luke ("light" and "lightbringer") who in turn represents the light in Anakin. Ben represents the dark (Vader) in Anakin ("son" and "father").

I think those work well, too

 

Problem is, if a Solo, Leia carried her.
Vader thought his child died with his mother before birth, Luke may not know he had a child.
None of them was in the position to establish a connection.
She can't.
That's the true point for me.
And I say that, because to me - believing her dead - is the only way to justify Han and Leia actions in TFA.
Is it possible that Leia never felt her daughter was still alive?
I must say not. Given what we know.
But If they are going to invent something new... I'll judge if that will be compelling.