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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

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  2. No

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  1. NinjaRen

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    I have the concept art book and in my opinion it was like this:

    Finn = Sam
    Sam was a Stromtrooper who defected after he had seen what the remnants of the Empire did to some captured Rebel soldiers. He had also witness the torture of a Jedi knight by the Jedi killer

    Rey = Kira
    Rey and Kira are mostly the same, but I think Kira would have been a Solo.

    Kylo = Jedi Killer
    The Jedi Killer was a Vader fanatic who worked on his own. The Jedi Killer would have been related to no one

    Poe = John Doe
    John Doe was one of the last surviving Jedi students of Luke Skywalker. After the Jedi Killer destroyed Luke's academy, Luke went into hiding. John was looking for him and was captured by the Jedi Killer who was with the Empire at this time. With Sam's help John Doe could flee and they ran into Kira. At then end John Doe would have fought the Jedi Killer. John would have been killed by the Jedi Killer.

    This was my take of the original story.
     
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    I think she was going to be a Solo. The sister to Skylar. Now it seems she was intended to be a Kenobi, but that's likely changed now.
     
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    Where is this name Skylar from? I can't find it anywhere.
     
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    It was a concept name for Ben when GL was working on ideas for 7. I think it's some pages back in the Kylo Ren thread.
     
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    Okay, the funny thing is that neither the name Skylar nor Ben is mentioned in the Concept Art Book of TFA. That's weird.

    EDIT: Isn't Skylar a female name?
     
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    Oh this was long before that. That's why.
     
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    Does it really matter who Rey's parents are? I watched TFA again a few days back and something leaped out at me, (apologies if this has already been discussed...)

    I think Rey, grew up on Jakku, and her parents were scavengers or worked for a local crime lord or such. You'll notice when the ship takes off, she screams "come back..." not "don't leave me here..."

    Also if her parents loved her, surely they wouldn't have left a young child with Unkar Plukt...

    Now I admit that this doesn't answer the question when she tells BB-8 "Classified? me too. Big secret..." I've not thought of a good enough answer for that yet.

    I've never believed she's Luke's daughter, simply because it'd be lazy story telling. I also no longer believe she's a Kenobi. The fact is, I reckon her parents are nobody special, but she was found to be strong with the Force, which would have scared them, and someone may have paid them to enable them to leave Jakku, but leave their daughter behind. Or the parents were taken? Could they be members of the First Order? Who didn't want their daughter to be raised/trained by Snoke? Let's not forget that Jakku featured in the Aftermath trilogy...

    I'll admit here and now I don't have the answers, these are just random thoughts. I wonder if we're attaching a greater significance to her parentage than is warranted?

    Roll on December I say
     
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    I always dismissed her conversation about her family with BB8 was playful banter. "Classified, me too,."
     
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    agreed. people make a big deal out of this, but it's a throwaway line--she's making fun of BB-8 because she doesn't believe he's important.
    and then they ignore her more honest lines: "i'm nobody." "i'm just a scavenger".
    Rey doesn't think she has any value.
    the irony of course being that she is innately powerful in the Force and is definitely going to be somebody--
    probably not because she comes from some dynastic line, but by her own singular merit.
     
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    I still believe that the reason why she was left on Jakku is because she was captured, and the people that left her were not actually her family. I still pretty strongly believe that Luke is her father, and I think that, in order for that to work, perhaps he and her mother separated before she was born (and therefore he didn't know), and once she was born, her mother either gave her up or was killed, and Rey was kidnapped/taken. I don't think the person or people who left her on Jakku are her real family, but because she was a child, she believed they were. If Luke and/or Leia had never met Rey, then there wouldn't be anyone related to her to know that she existed or know that she was missing.

    Those are just my thoughts, though.
     
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    I don't know man. I think her significance is what drives the story forward. She thinks she's a nobody. But she's somebody. Of course I think she's a product of the force, but that's an unpopular opinion. I'm not putting her on a pedestal, but im just saying, she might be somebody.

    Mod Edit: Language.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Aug 20, 2017 ---

    Alright thats cool, man.
     
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    If she's Random (which means good bye future Skywalker family) it means shoehorning in her parents if they live. If ded, then super lazy writing complaints will never end.

    I'd rather scrub toliets then be a SW writer.
     
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    Ever since early on in the promotion of TFA Daisy has and has continued to say that her past is not as important her future and who Rey becomes. This has been supported by comments from others at Lucasfilm involved with the movies. Having new unrelated parents is lazy writing. Her parents could have been people who were important or just nobodies. It doesn't matter. What matters is that at a young age she was abandoned to be left to fend for herself in a very unfriendly environment. The experience of her having to grow on her own with no family and learn to provide for herself is what shaped who she is. That is a very traumatic experience no matter who her parents are/were. That doesn't change whether she is a Skywalker, Solo or just a new character

    In the end I think we the fans are making her parentage a bigger deal than necessary.
     
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    Daisy said she knew who Rey's parents were since VII and it hasn't changed, so whatever we get will be what had always been planned.

    I agree and I think that EW article was trying to put out the flames before they grew.
     
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    Yap exactly we had this in Gotg2 father vs Marry Poppins, if someone shapes you by absence they can be super important how they want.
     
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    that Mary Poppins /Father thing was so incredibly satisfying.
     
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    Captain Phasma is Rey's Mom. Yeah, that's the ticket!
     
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    No posts since August 20th!! That's insane.

    Over the past couple of years we've speculated quite about bit about how the story for this trilogy was created. It seems to me that the skeleton of the story is more influenced by Lucas and the story group than many of us believed. The story group met for a month in 2012.

    This information fits Pablo's tweet from last weekend:


    It seems to me that some semblance of a story for the trilogy was laid out back in 2012 and the directors have worked inside of that sketch. Obviously that initial group would have been influenced by Lucas' ideas. As Kennedy has mentioned the story transitioned in a normal way from his original ideas.
     
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    It really is going to be Kenobi then...
     
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    And to add to that, here's quotes from Kathy Kennedy.

    " Well, here’s the thing. There are certain things they retained and obviously everything George created, you can imagine, every single person involved in this process hugely respects and wanted to know as much as they possibly could about the universe that he was describing. He had specific plot ideas that evolved."

    " He sat down with me in 2012, and now it’s almost 2016, and you know the development process, where you bring writers on and once the story starts to take shape, it evolves. George wasn’t a part of those development discussions, so it was a fairly natural process of evolution. It sounds like we ignored him but that’s not really what happened."

    " No, because the legacy characters play a significant role in this, and I would say and inside the balance that George was talking about to begin with. It was really much more to do with the specifics of the history of the saga. We changed the order of a few things, let’s put it that way. We didn’t make some wholesale change."
     
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