SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

And Rey is supposed to be destined to be together with a Kylo who - lets make a short list:

- killed half of the innocent Luke's padawans
- killed Lorr San Tekka,(ok Rey probabaly never heard of him)
- killed his own father Han Solo in front of her
- de-spined her best friend Finn,in front of her
- in front of Rey herself made choice not to change himself
- de-facto cut Luke Skywalker in half (thought he was )
- ordered onslaught of the Resistance's last stand on Crate, in which he knew was his own mother, saying...: " no prisoners."
- ordered destruction of Millenium Falcon, which was his fathers love and sentiment(showing his rejection of all of his past), in which was in that moment- Rey
- promissed to Luke at the end that he will destroy Rey to

 

Excellent points!

I would suggest adding to that list:

- ordered the elimination of all those immediately there on Jakku after his encounter with Lor San Tekka
- invaded Rey's mind f/Forcefully
- tortured Poe Dameron
- stood idly by as the Hosnian System was vaporized

 

yeah. what a terrible person he is. no one is debating that.

but absolutely none of this stopped Rey from going after him the first time.
and none of it is likely to stop her from trying again.

 

And I'd agree:

nothing should stop anyone from trying to save someone again.

I believe in endless compassion and that anyone should maintain hope even in the darkest of realms.

This is what helped Luke Skywalker, after casting down his lightsbaer, stand before both Darth Vader and the Emperor armed with nothing but true belief.

Perhaps the only person, in the end, to save Ben is Ben.

But, as Anakin's story proved, I think: no one is ever beyond redemption.

 

serriously guys,

do you really believe Disney is ready to (different level of infringement )

0-make desgust
1-provoke,
2-insult,
3-destroy

Millions of fans and ordinary public around the world with Rey purposely ending togehter with this guy?
Even if redeemed in the Force and in front of Rey, just like Vader..Kylo than must die like a Vader, because who can redeem his atrocities in front of ordinary people of the galaxy, and the public?

Rey and Kylo would be forced to go to exile into another galaxy and start entire new trilogy from the...scratch... ......Jesus all mighty

 

yes because saving the actual child of Han Solo and Leia Organa and telling a redemptive love story (even if it's platonic in the end) at least makes narrative sense as opposed to making Rey a fantasy Skywalker daughter in the 11th hour and writing off the sexual tension between the two as an "incest joke" in the worst of all possible taste.

 

Perhaps he is the one who will make the ultimate choice of redeeming himself.

I can't help but think of that piece of dialogue between Luke and Leia in ANH:

Leia: What's wrong?
Luke: Oh, it's Han. I don't know, I thought he'd change his mind.
Leia: He's got to follow his own path, no one can choose it for him.

Of course they were talking about Han, but if that "you have too much of your father's heart in you, young Solo" is true, he might do the same and make the right choice. Of course any additional motivation from a certain young Jedi helps lol.

Come on, guys, this is not Game of Thrones!

EXACTLY! At least - going back into Game of Thrones - endogamy makes kind of sense in Westeros because we are talking about Houses, and bloodlines, and whatnot. Here is a galaxy far, far away and George Lucas is to blame of those weird kisses between Leia and Luke as him not having defined their kinship until the last minute.

 

Unlike the romantic tension between Leia and Luke.

 

She will save him I suppose but he should not stay alive, he made atrocities.He is dead end in physical sense. There is no Snoke, no his Master to justiffy him continuing with his evil acts, he chosed freely.

She is the last Skywalker.

George Lucas had some standards, Vader was redeemed in front of his son Luke and in the Force, and than died.Beause galaxy would never forgive Vader.

You certainly do not believe Finn and Poe, as well as all other victims of Kylo Ren are for ReyLo?

 

Are these proof that Rey is a Skywalker? How?

 

We just seek true last Skywalker.

Kylo is shame not a Skywalker,nor he is a Solo( this is his own choice, kill the past !), so in fact for educated public Kylo is black hole, he is in fact nobody.

We need, ask, seek, for true Skywalker to end this saga, not a failed, redeemed spoled child, however his redemption been justiffied at the end.

Because even if not Skywalker, trough her care for Skywalker's legacy and her virtues Rey is already 100 times greater Skywalker than Kylo will ever be.

So why not make her to be true Skywalker.

 

I get that. But how any of that is an argument to Rey being a Skywalker?

I wasn't sure after TFA but I thought that TLJ clearly showed that Rey and Luke are not daughter and father? If he were her father, it would be mighty cruel of Rian Johnson to have left her oblivious to that fact when she was spending time with him?

 

when you can provide an explanation as to why Mark Hamill, Rian Johnson, and a significant portion of the audience sees sexual tension between Rey and Ben--that isn't a winky incest joke--i'll be more than happy to answer this question. : D

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywoo...t-jedi-reylo-do-kylo-and-rey-fall-in-love-sex

 

Are people really still debating that?

A while back, I did at one point prefer Rey was Luke's daughter, and I constructed an elaborate back-story as to why Luke went missing (e.g. because he thought he lost everything, not only Ben, or his students, but his own daughter and perhaps his wife at the hands of Snoke).

But now I happily accept Rey as she has been revealed in TLJ, which I believe answered the central topic of this thread back in December.

But maybe J.J. has something of a surprise in mind for IX?

Besides that, though, I've always maintained individuals can and often ultimately do go on to define or redefine themselves. They have to have a chance to know the truth, though, independent of other influences, or at least make some personal breakthroughs which can lead to new understandings.

With that in mind, and with regards to Ben's identity, I think, without Snoke around to distort his mind and manipulate his emotions, Ben might have a better opportunity to discover/rediscover himself.

I do still think Ben can be Skywalkerly, in the Anakin sense, and return to the light and be a Force for good.

I think it's that kind of vital hope that helped the Skywalker lineage persist as long as it did.

One of the things I particularly admire about TLJ is the prospect of there being heroes beyond the Jedi Order and the Skywalker name.

That there is always A New Hope to be found.

 

Nothing can be cruel, for me, as Rey's 2 drunkard scavanger parents definitely written in the Star Wars canon after end of trilogy just because its "unexpected" and hard to hear..

Terrorist attacks are unexpected and hard to accept to, jet must I see such great twist of realism in a Star Wars and see it as great?

I want glory at the end..its a Space Opera.

Luke was crushed man, disconnected from the Force. Yes his daughter was brought at him by the will of The Force against all odds, and nobody is like the Force.

One in a million.

Star Wars damit.

 

Quoting the great Luke:

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/201...ys-origins-from-the-last-jedi-make-sense.html

End of shameless plug.

But as I mentioned in the attached editorial, a common motif on these sagas is a shared perception on how individuals often face significant conflict in the inside on their learning path towards finding their true self. And who we really are has a lot to do with the choices we make.

A reverse Anakin, which has such a poetic perspective.

 

The people like me have problem, I am sad because I see painful hypocrisy in things that some other people I think can't see.
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example:

Rey is white brunette, (just like Padme and Leia) , jet , purportedly a random born scavanger.

If Rey is not Skywalker, but is white brunette just like Padme and Leia , is this than , behind a moutfull words of "equal chances for everyone".. actually a racist prejudice?

No?

Why is Rey then physically clishee of Star Wars heroine if true message was anybody can be this main hero?

Why was Rey not a..black girl, or asian?Or, even a blonde?

Why is she brunette with english accent if polithical corretness is agenda, if she is truly random born?

From that point, In fact, only if Rey is Skywalker is truly polithically correct, because she is white brunette by blood.

 

how is this not obvious to more people? Ben has already gone from egregiously and objectively awful (Jakku), to politically stupid and foolishly angry.
next stop: optimistic with a desire to do good.

he'll never be innocent again as Anakin was, but hopefully he will be wiser than Anakin ever grew to be (with Anakin being the master he will grow beyond).

Rey Skywalker literally has no place in this story. but Rey of Jakku, the rising Light of the Force....
she is going to save the galaxy and she doesn't need the Skywalker name to do it.