SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

I never understood why people assumed a force relic would only call to a family member? Is that established anywhere else in canon? Are you saying Rey's past should only be set up as a mystery if she's related to a Skywalker? Her being a random works as a story device simply because of that expectation. If she was a Skywalker it would be very boring and uninspired choice. Instead we have a new hero who isn't related to the story. This time the hero isn't the chosen one or the child of the chosen one. It's the scavenger vs. the spoiled prince.

 

I am saying that giving Rey a vague backstory is not a good set up that she is a noboody and why does she need to witness these force visions from Cloud City that have no bearing to the plot or her story. In a New Hope, Luke did not have a vague backstory. He was a farm boy with a defined past, there was no mystery box about who his parents really were. That Vader revelation only came in Empire and the reason why that twist worked because you didn’t see it coming. They didn’t hit you over the head with “Who is Luke’s dad?”

Also, Maz saying that lightsaber was Luke’s and his father’s before him and now it calls to you. And when you don’t know who her parents were yes it begs the question “Who is Rey?”

The beauty of Luke losing that lightsaber in Empire was that he was able to step out of his fathers shadow and become his own person. Bringing the lightsaber back for no reason just feels like another movie reference and doesn’t make any sense.

When you have people in the movie ask “Who’s this girl?” or Rey saying where she’s from “classified? yea me too big secret,” then yes it’s mystery box. If you wanted Rey to be clearly defined as not Skywalker related then give her a last name. They should have kept it Kira Rey. Instead she’s just Rey, and is just a catalyst for Kylo Ren.

And no her being a Skywalker would have worked fine if they deconstructed the chosen one concept. It would be the story of two grandchildren. One, raised as a spoiled brat who thinks he deserves power by divine right and the Other, a young girl raised as a scavenger who earns her way through hardship. As I said, it’s not about what you tell but how you tell it and in my opinion, I don’t think the way they’ve told this story is very satisfying.

 

There are several hundred pages of thread here where we debated this topic so there's no use rehashing it all again. You simply saw what you wanted to believe. Others did not. I understand your points, but the plurality believed Rey was a random based on TFA. I'm sorry you didn't find the story satisfying. That's your opinion, but I simply disagree.

 

Most people I know believed Rey was not a random but whatever. Look she could be related to Jane Goodall for all I care. I just want the story to make sense.t Abrams set up Rey’s backstory with a big cloud of questions. My whole point is by not giving Rey a last name you’ve made her a bland character with no real growth. She doesn’t really learn that much from Luke on that island apart from that the Jedi suck. It’s all about Ben Solo and in my opinion, there is too much emphasis on him at the cost of other characters not really growing or developing.

It just seems painfully obvious that there is no cohesive vision with his new trilogy. The OT had some inconsistencies and not everything was planned out but each film sprung from what came before. one film fed the other in a way that didn’t raise so many questions. There I have said my piece.

 

Not knowing who Rey's parents are, is the mystery behind this trilogy. she is nobody but not to me. I'm confident that JJ will give us a satisfying end to this trilogy.

 

Are Yoda, Chewie, and Finn bland characters because they don't have last names?

 

She’s was a nobody. Sorry folks

 

Actually, pretty much the reverse of a lot of this is true. They chose to make her parents nobody important because that was the most devastating thing she could hear. If her moment of Truth came and she was a Kenobi, than so what? If she was a Skywalker or a Solo, than we just have more of the same that we had, and all she gets is validation. No, it needs to be hard for her, and the hardest thing for her is going to be establishing her own identity, not having it inherited.

As for why her story wasn't very well developed, the simple answer is she spent to much time with Luke for that. By virtue of being Luke-freakin-Skywalker, the narrative immediately began revolving around him, not Rey. Which is why: A. They didn't use him in TFA (orginally he was in that one), and B. why he had to die.

Rey's story is about defining herself. Luke's was dependent on his Father. We can't have the same story twice now can we.

 

Maybe you're right, maybe the intention was to make her random all along. If what you say is true, then JJ and his editor(s) are really incompetent, and the ones to blame here. I would be satisfied with that justification. To say that lineage wasn't played up in TFA is just being blind and unreasonable to what people were seeing, which we don't need to rehash as you said. Prior to TLJ, ~2/3 of the crowd on these boards and others polled assumed she was Luke's daughter, now we can see how that has changed. Family is a powerful thing in culture, literature and film-(SW). Hell, your avatar comes from a show that is dedicated to said theme. I'm curious, if our new heroes have children in future films or books, would you want them to continue in part of the story you loved as a hero? If your answer is yes, you can empathize with the people who think it was and odd choice that was made for Rey thus far, and the phony concept of anyone can be heroes being established with TLJ, when you mentioned all those non Skywalker heroes previously created.

 

Ok, I am not going to debate this Rey parents thing because I know what I saw. TFA did not set up her character well.

I am sorry just being around Luke Skywalker is no excuse for bad development. She could have grown if they actually showed luke training instead of spnding multiple scenes debating about how bad the jedi are.

Making Luke absent from TFA was a big mistake in my opinion but whatever. I didn’t want her to be a Kenobi I just wanted a cohesive story and that’s not what was given. She doesn’t do anything to earn her status as a Jedi other than just being good at it. We don’t see hardship won, just someone there used to tell a story between Luke and Kylo Ren that was also not well fleshed out.


My point is no one would be debating who her parents were if the TFA properly set up her character, which they didn’t.

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Ok, I am not going to debate this Rey parents thing because I know what I saw. TFA did not set up her character well.

I am sorry just being around Luke Skywalker is no excuse for bad development. She could have grown if they actually showed luke training instead of spnding multiple scenes debating about how bad the jedi are.

Making Luke absent from TFA was a big mistake in my opinion but whatever. I didn’t want her to be a Kenobi I just wanted a cohesive story and that’s not what was given. She doesn’t do anything to earn her status as a Jedi other than just being good at it. We don’t see hardship won, just someone there used to tell a story between Luke and Kylo Ren that was also not well fleshed out.


My point is no one would be debating who her parents were if the TFA properly set up her character, which they didn’t.

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Finn didn’t have a surname because it was established he was taken away from his family and was a programmed stormtrooper. Finn is a bland character because they don’t give him any real serious drama and is used as an over the top goof.

 

Luke did not train her and is dead now.

 

Rey saw failure of Luke, but not that he did overcome it and achieve something important. I know you have a different perception, so let us better agree to disagree.

 

Luke did just a projection but actually did not beat one single soldier there. It was Rey in the end who will be remembered by all survivors as the one who saved them. This broom boy kid was a late addition, I guess Rian realized that Luke dying alone and in pain on his island left such a deperate impression. This kid scene did not really make it better, but of course this is all my personal oppinion.

 

a force power that Rey & Kylo used very similar before during the force skype chats, but it didn't kill any of them. So no, it was not really such a great display of power. Also what a terrible scene when Luke died alone without any friend there. Neither Yoda nor Obi-Wan died in such a way.