Kylo is a Liar

I don't mind Rey being a nobody or a somebody but, as I have stated in another thread, what bothers me is who left her on Jakku and why?

Her drunk parents were flying their shuttle searching for a planet to sell her? Doesnt make sense. And she didn't seem like a slave to Unkar Plutt in TFA, she just scavenged for him to get food.

I was always under the impression that she would be revealed as one of Luke's surviving students...

Anyway, Rey may be a nobody but the drunk parents theory create more questions than answers.

 

I'm perfectly fine with her being unrelated to known characters - but the question isn't necessarily put to rest. For one thing, JJ is now taking over the story, and just like Rian Johnson was free to do whatever he wanted with Ep8, JJ will be free to do whatever he likes with Ep9. And the door is still open. How could Kylo have known who Rey's parents were, what happened to them or where they were buried? He could easily have been preying on Rey's deepest fears, rather than what she actually knew about her parents.

Heck, they could say that Rey's mother or father was the illegitimate child of Ben Kenobi who went on to become a junk dealer that died on Jakku - thus making both stories true.

There are options.

Personally, I would leave her as Rey Random at this point unless there was a really good reason not to - but it would certainly be easier to explain how she was related to known characters after all than it was to make Leia and Lukes siblings in RotJ.

 

Kylo is a liar but Rey came to that conclusion on her own. Her dad might as well yave veen Snoke because they are equal in importance to the story. Her folks like him are part of the past.

 

If enough people moan, b!tch & complain Disney will change her redneck, alcoholic parents into people who found/kidnapped her.

& before u say no, Roddenberry brought Spock back from the dead.

 

Some said Rey already knew, but how could she know who her parents was, did she recognize her parents' face while she was just borned, I still think the two "nobodies" who sold her are just her adoptive parents, Rey saw herself at the mirror might just explain that she actually has no parents, she might be just a clone of Palpatine or Anakin........

 

What? Canon material shows Luke improved his light saber skills over the THREE YEARS between a new hope and empire

 

I will be honest; I loved the reveal because really it helped with the movie showcasing that legacy/ lineage doesn't matter. And that anyone can become a hero. But really, I do think I find it unsatisfying from the point of view that it does NOT explain why Rey is so strong. For granted, I guess you could argue it is because of Rey and Kylo feeding off of each other in terms of power.

That is Kylo represents the darkness and Rey represent the light. But still, I cannot help but feel a bit peeved, especially considering how Rey managed to perform a mind trick in TFA. But alas, I have an honest feeling that JJ is going to undermine this during Episode Nine.

Ideally, I'd like to see Rey's folks perhaps be descended from some line of powerful Force Sensitives. Think of the Sunriders for those Legend fans and ultimately her folks just never displayed signs of Force Sensitivity, but Rey was the lucky one. But call me skeptical.

Still, a part of me just relished seeing most of those theories being put to rest. I know I'm sadistic but still; it makes that Forceback in TFA a lot more satisfying.

P.S: Normally, I'm not a shipper, but the whole Reylo ship, considering Rey and Kylo's relationship in TLJ I can kind of see why fans support it. Really, that just showcases why RJ I find is a better director in that be better brought out the actors in making sure they best fullfiled their roles. But I also acknowledge that Driver and Ridley are more experienced this time around.

 

Rey said it herself. You lose.

 

I don't understand why it's stupid? Other than Luke do we know that all the past great Jedi came from special Jedi bloodlines?

I wouldn't have a problem if her parents were of consequence, but I've never understood why some people view it as a requirement.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 16, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 16, 2017 ---

But that's OT. No criticisms allowed!!

 

Well his Uncle was quite the liar.

 

Right. This is from years of being told the same lie.


Ren tells Rey she knows, deep down. That she's always known but never wanted to believe it.
She's forced herself to not believe it. I mean there's literally an incredibly beautifully done scene in the cave that all but tells us this and confirmed by the Rey/Ren conversation.

 

True. That scene explains it in a wild way but it shows her she has her identity and her parents are now what she needs to stop chasing.

 

Ren does a lot of really terrible things, but one thing he doesn't do is deliberately lie.
partly, i suspect, because he's felt lied to all his life.
and partly because his face gives everything away all the time, which is part of the reason he wore mask.

this is not to say he might not pass on an un-truth (like the incident with Luke) believing it's true when it's not.
but he has no reason to lie to Rey. he earnestly wants her to be with him.
there are dozens of lies he could have told her to try to convince her.
instead, he awkwardly throws the very hurtful truth in her face (largely because he's projecting; he recognizes this truth as something he relates to, deeply).
and she knows it's the truth too, which is why neither of them belabors it.

 

Yep. I don't think Kylo could just say "hey you're parents were drunks who traded you off" and she would be like "Oh em geee really?!?!"
She knew, just like Ren said. She just didn't want it to be true.

Luke never knew the truth UNTIL Obi-Wan and Vader filled him in.

It also adds to make sense as to WHY the force chose her. Someone who could find that light. Someone like a poor slave....or moisture farmer...

 

i honestly think you give him too much credit.
he doesn't know what he wants.
he wants peace, he wants order.
he wants the galaxy to stop kicking him in the face, repeatedly.
he thinks following Vader's path is the way to get that because it's what everyone has told him.

if he was just out to exploit Rey, he'd flatter her, but he doesn't.
he tells her the truth: you're nobody, but together we can be somebody; we can make a better world without all this pain.

he wanted a companion in TFA and he still does in TLJ because he's so desperately lonely.
she's the only person in the galaxy like him. and he knows that.

 

Agreed. Lying gets him nothing with her. She'd know. They're too intertwined to lie and get away with it.