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SPECULATION Lor San Tekka (Max Von Sydow's Character).

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by zathronas, Sep 7, 2014.

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    I'm wary of these recent reports re: MvS = Boba for several reasons:

    1. We already have rumours of a Vader-wannabe in TFA. A Boba-wannabe/replacement is a step too far. This equates to Disney saying, 'You know all those classic villains lost in the old movies: well we're bringing them all back because, you know, Star Wars and all that...."

    2. I fail to see how (a new) Boba could be made sympathetic enough to be a protagonist if his first/defining act is to steal the identity of a child. How would that work? Either the original Boba died young and there was a good reason to keep his persona alive; or he died after he had a reputation as a ruthless ("no disintegrations") bounty hunter, in which case a 'hero' would need a good reason to adopt his moniker. I can see how a good guy would adopt Boba's persona if it was to infiltrate, say, the bounty hunters' guild to bring it down or steal secrets, but that wouldn't make that person Boba any more than Leia disguising herself to enter Jabba's palace made her Boosh. If MvS became Boba after the events of the OT, he isn't Boba; if he was Boba during the OT, he's not suitable as a Disney hero. (Not sure if I've made that point well or not, sorry....)

    3. Changing the back-story of one of the most beloved characters in SW history (again) is a slight against established canon and an insult to the fans.

    I don't buy it and, until I see it work well in the movies, I won't believe it can work at all....
     
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    The more they do with Boba Fett the less I care about him. Which, as a child of the 80's, totally sucks to feel like.
     
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    Well...

    In fact.... we don't ACTUALLY know who is Boba Fett :)

    We assumed it was his clone taking over, but that wasn't "that" obvious onscreen.
    It's only a mask and a costume.

    I don't want to rain on the parade here, but..... let's say...Talented Mr Ripley in Outer Space as a Spin off....

    We've seen the story a thousand times....

    The original Boba (clone of Jango) establishes himself as the King Pin of Bounty Hunting.... reputation.... salary...ect.
    Murdered by his apprentice/colleague/business partner....

    He dons the mask and costume and keeps the business alive.

    The only problem I have with this one is to put a MVS as Boba in TFA and gives us the ?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!! before the release of the Spin Off film.... it could just confuse us.

    My two cents.

    Unless they cleverly keep MVS's identity confusing enough so we, after we see the spin off, go back to TFA and realise... OH YEAH....! That was Boba!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    But then we have a spin off about a murderer. Not very Disney, imho....
     
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    Maybe he just got got tramped by Wildebeest (or Naboo cows) :)
     
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    Recalling Essential Guide to Characters vs what's on wookipedia right now, I got this feeling Kasdan is trying to bring back the old 'Jaster Mareel' backstory.

    Still, there goes my '1313' movie..:(

    I would count myself as one of those..:D

    In light of recent revelations regarding TFA I'm actually more inclined to believe this now than I was two weeks ago. Boba Fett as a 'Good Guy' sends chills down my spine. Now, you can interpret him as a lighter shade of grey.. but never a good guy.
    I really don't care if he kills the kid because with the PQs canon now that's really the only course of action left to fix this 'problem'. The should have thought this through before canonizing those films.
     
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    If we see someone else don the Boba Fett costume they probably plucked it off Fett after he died from other causes. If they're trying to make him a good guy that's really the best way to do it, IMO
     
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    But doing so reduces Boba Fett to a costume -- an empty shell into which anyone can be poured. Fett fans haven't worshipped Boba for 3 decades because of a costume, have they? Surely not! It was the mystique, the sinister edge, the fact he talked back to Vader ("No good to me dead"). Ignoring all that and presenting a new, less mysterious, less sinister character in a Fett costume just isn't enough for the spin-off to be a Fett movie. It will be something else. And it may be "ok", I guess. But it won't be Fett....
     
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    I think they will have to since Max's voice would be very deep right now.
    I always thought Yoda's movie would be first released.
     
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    Well, i dont buy the rumors about Fett doesnt make to much sense and its overcomplicated. it serves no purpose at all, we dont need to see old retired Fett, jost for cameo is a waste of Fett.
    I was thinking about comic characters moving to the Big Screen, because of Rebels this week. Its a common tool in the star wars franchise, it happend in Empire (Boba Fett) and it happened in RotS( Grievious). So there are some Characters in Rebels that might fit. Since Lupita is out , she looks like asoka but playing something else. my money is on Kanan. he should be around 70 in TFA.

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    Perhaps the kid-Boba shot first? Apparently, murdering is family friendly then ;)
     
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    It would be an interesting nod to the EU if true.

    Let's see, rumor that MVS is a character from the ST.
    EU- Jaina trains with Boba Fett before hunting down Jacen/Darth Caedus
    Kira/Rey is a Solo
    MVS is Rey's mentor

    HMMMM????
     
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    Maybe it's not the first time, he is a family man himself from a kid to a killer im not so sure.
    fam2.jpg family.jpg kid.jpg
     
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    Here's how I look at it.

    Lucas took one of the most intriguing, mysterious, and special characters of the original trilogy and made him a clone. I don't think there is any possible way you could've have made him less special. Unbelievable to me. So if they want to essentially "re-write" his character again I really don't think they can do any more damage. This could be an opportunity to save the character in my opinion. I mean, a clone? Really George? I'm not mad at you, I'm just disappointed...

    So I say go for it. Not because I want to know more about Boba Fett (because the attraction of the character lies within what little we know about him), but because it's inevitable. He's going to appear sometime in the future on the big screen. It's too much of a cash grab to pass up. So if it's going to happen it just needs to be done well. And I think it could.

    Has anybody seen the Clint Eastwood film "High Plains Drifter" ? That's how you could make Boba Fett a morally ambiguous and mysterious protagonist in a Star Wars film. But as far as VII goes... Who better than Max Von Sydow? Guy is a legend in his own right and has the presence to pull it off. If it's written correctly, of course...
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that always the plan for Fett?
     
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    Wouldn't it make sense for them to just use the Sarlacc incident as the point where Mvs' character took over the Boba persona? Everyone presumed him dead and he shows up again but it's MvS because the real Boba did die in Sarlacc. That way it wouldn't mess with any of TCW stuff either. His story would be from the time between ROTJ and TFA and maybe around 8-10 years before TFA he hung it up. He found Boba's ship abandoned on Tatooine with another set of armor in it and when he heard Boba had supoosedly died he took over the persona. That's what I was thinking anyway.
     
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    That makes sense to me.
     
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    It would also make sense as to why IF Rey was Han's daughter he doesn't hate her. Han and Boba were enemies, if MvS took over afer the real Boba fell into Sarlacc he wouldn't have any beef with the people the old Boba did.
     
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    I personally AM NOT buying the whole "MvS being a dude that killed Boba, took his armor, assumed his identity, and subsequently in his later years becomes Kira's mentor and helps the rebellion....someone with NO (seemingly) possible connection, that would even care" story. If that seemingly half-believable story plays out on the screen, it had better be executed DAMNED WELL to be accepted by the diehard fans or we're in for another serious round of SW movie bashing by the haters! :)
     
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    But he didn't die. Wasn't it not that long ago that some SW writer say that Lucas told him that Fett survived?
     
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