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Official Hux Episode VIII Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by RockyRoadHux, Mar 27, 2016.

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Do you agree with the following statements?

  1. Hux is a man whos loyalty to Snoke is beyond question.

    45 vote(s)
    30.2%
  2. I think that there's more to the General than we know.

    65 vote(s)
    43.6%
  3. Maybe Kylo will be redeemed, but there is no hope for Hux.

    43 vote(s)
    28.9%
  4. Hux is going to have a physical confrontation in EVIII with somebody,whether Snoke, Finn or s.o else

    23 vote(s)
    15.4%
  5. Hux wont survive the next film in one of Kylo's rage tantrums.

    16 vote(s)
    10.7%
  6. Hux and Phasma will be getting back together, again.

    23 vote(s)
    15.4%
  7. He’s a throw away character though... doesn't seem very important so far.

    17 vote(s)
    11.4%
  8. Hux is a moof-milker+ his cat Millicent should be canon.

    28 vote(s)
    18.8%
  9. I think Hux is maneuvering to get Kylo ousted from the FO.

    56 vote(s)
    37.6%
  10. General Hux always looks like he’s watching someone not use a coaster.

    50 vote(s)
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    Hmm... I really have to wonder it there's more to Hux than we think. He starts tearing up as Starkiller Base's weapon fires. Are they tears of regret and horror, meaning that he has doubts and his sneering and spittle-throwing is all an act? Are they tears of awe, meaning that he's the kind of lunatic who finds a super weapon capable of wiping out an entire system in a single go beautiful? Or is he that narcissistic that he's crying at his own speech? The choice is yours, friends!:p
     
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    I know... Hux doesn't even deserve to have a cat :p

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    Interesting fact - both Kylo and Hux have been manipulated or brainwashed to some extent. And both of them had a "difficult" childhood.

    In Hux's case it all starts with a sinister nanny droid.

    Prior to The Force Awakens's release, a character named Brendol Hux was introduced in Servants of the Empire: The Secret Academy, a young readers' book by Jason Fry

    "I'd imagined Zare catching sight of a red-haired baby in a hover-pram pushed by a sinister nanny droid"

    Jason Fry, on writing Servants of the Empire: The Secret Academy"

    And with his father- of course. Brendol Hux, who founded the Commandant's Cadets:

    "The Commandant's Cadets was a secret student society found within the Galactic Empire's Arkanis Academy on the planetArkanis. Created by the academy's leader, CommandantBrendol Hux, the organization was made up of cadetshandpicked by Hux. Potential members were identified by their strong performance at the academy, but first had to pass a test to get in"

    As part of the test, cadets were required to kill a fellow cadet but to stage it as an accident.

    That sounds strict, doesn't it?

    Now to spice things up a little bit: The FO seems to treat its soldiers as such valuable assets that it literally tries to talk disobedient soldiers around rather than lock them up- take Finn for example. He displayed open insubordination toward his commander during his mission on Jakku, but gets let off with a light recommendation for reconditioning by Phasma- no torture or anything.

    I'm with Ren on this one :D What is going on with space nazi Hux?



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    Quoting from:

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    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Arkanis_Academy

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Commandant's_Cadets

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Servants_of_the_Empire:_The_Secret_Academy

    http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/13/star-wars-starkiller-base-general-hux
     
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    Not going to lie, I started laughing out loud when I read that.
     
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    WAIT. A. MINUTE.

    is that seriously a real thing???
    i thought this was just weird head canon stuff people were making up on tumblr.

    see? this is why we needed this thread!

    holy moof-milkers. MIND. BLOWN.
     
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    No, not made up. Although I'm still doing my research on the sinister nanny, the way I understand it they wanted the nanny but I am not entirely sure if she made into the final draft.

    http://www.starwars.com/news/the-force-awakens-secret-inside-the-secret-academy

    "My mind started churning somewhere between hearing about Finn’s origins and seeing a still of the rather young-looking General Hux. When our group met with the Story Group’s Pablo Hidalgo, I blurted out an idea: What if the plan to raise children as stormtroopers began back in the Star Wars Rebels era, at the Imperial academy on Arkanis? What if it was the brainchild of Commandant Hux, father to The Force Awakens’ General Hux?

    Pablo liked the idea, and ran it up the chain. I waited for someone to say no, trying not to think of all the reasons that might happen. When the answer came back yes, I wrote as quickly as I could and then prayed that there’d be no last-minute reversal.

    Not all of my original idea survived. I’d imagined Zare catching sight of a red-haired baby in a hover-pram pushed by a sinister nanny droid, but that wound up feeling like a reference for a reference’s sake, which I’ve come to believe undermines storytelling instead of supporting it. (I kept the droid as DDM-38, the academy’s eyeless caretaker.) Connections between Star Warsstories are fun, and can include everything from character or creature cameos to retellings of the same events. I’m happy we were able to connect The Secret Academy with The Force Awakens. But more than that, I’m proud of a connection that I think exists for the right reasons"
     
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    yeah, not so much the nanny specifically, but Arkanis and the "kill a cadet" thing and Brendol Sr. being, well, Brendol Sr.
    i just thought people were making this stuff up to try to excuse Hux's...oddity.

    i mean, it doesn't entirely explain him, but it does raise the question, as you stated, regarding all the varying levels of brainwashing these characters have suffered.

    i'm still not feeling much sympathy for Hux.
    Finn clearly had a crisis and conscience, gave the FO the finger, and won against his programming.
    Ren is having a crisis of conscience and losing.
    Hux? he's not having a crisis at all (i mean, other than losing Starkiller ~ hahaha).
     
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    Save the the poor cat! (and.. I repeat myself.. put him in Phasmas' favorite trash compactor)
     
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    Here is what wookiepedia says

    "DDM-38 was a droid owned by Brendol Hux, the commandantof Arkanis Academy, an Imperial installation that specialized in training officers.

    DDM-38 had jet-black plating and a head that held a blank, metal faceplate with two black photoreceptors. DDM moved through legged locomotion, and she had at least one hand, which was cold and unyielding. She had feminine programming and spoke with a vaguely female, monotone voice. When Zare Leonis first arrived on Arkanis,
    DDM occasionally ignored his questioning and interrupted him"
     
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    i have a hankering to chase down that Academy book. it's interesting that it's a book for kids.
    i'm (perhaps reluctantly) beginning to understand the weird prurient interest in Hux's personal life ~ hahaha
     
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    That's some fantastic stuff right there. I want more deep weirdness with Hux. Remember the rumors he was Luke's son prior to the release of TFA?
     
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    I'm curious why Snoke picked Hux for this Job. Ok, obvious reason might be that he probably sees him as a competent General, someone he needs to keep First Order running smoothly.

    If you take a look that excerpt from wookiepedia:

    "Hux( Brendol) had served as a junior officer in the Grand Army of the Republic, communicating tactics and strategy as determined by Jedigenerals. He eventually had a son who became a general of the First Order"

    During the Clone Wars, Brendol Hux was a junior officer in theGrand Army of the Republic who communicated tactics and strategies devised by the Galactic Republic's Jedi Generals.

    Hux
    admired the combat prowess and dedication of the Republic's clone troopers and the Jedi Order, who had been trained from youth as soldiers and warriors. Following the transformation of the Republic into the Galactic Empire, Hux continued serving the Imperial Military and was eventually transferred to the Imperial Academy on Arkanis."


    ... So General Hux's father was an admirer of the Jedi order. Maybe there’s an interesting story there.
     
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    I thought that Domnhall Gleeson might be playing Luke's son. I jumped that ship when Hux's name was revealed.

    I think Ren and Hux are both equally as nuts. It's just that Hux has a better handle on it than Ren does. I think VIII or IX could be a great opportunity to see Hux have a truly legendary pre-death meltdown.
     
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    yeah, i think it would be great to see him completely lose his composure at least once.
    we know he has it in him to go way off the rails.
    truly legendary pre-death meltdown would be the supernova lottery of awesome.
     
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    From what we know about Hux, it sounds like he's risen in the ranks very quickly. He's ripe for a "pride goeth" scenario. Maybe the FO command decide he needs to go, and Hux lets off one insane rant about how dare they, everything he's done has been for the First Order, yada yada, descending further and further into incoherence (and/or sobbing, sobbing villains are a fascinating flavor of pathetic) before somebody (Phasma, Del Toro, Ren) puts a blaster bolt in his head/lightsaber in his back.
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    From what I understand, in one of the new-canon EU books, it's revealed that Hux's father was a surviving Imperial post-Endor. So Hux rising up the ranks so quickly is probably partly to do with his family pedigree/connections, and his being good at his job. I mean he did oversee the successful construction of SKB, take out the entire NR fleet and government (or at least most of it) in one shot (and it was his idea to do so), and nearly wipe out the Resistance leadership[ as well. And he only failed in that because of Kylo screwing things up while in pursuit of his "personal interests," Han and Poe's quick thinking and daredevil piloting moves, and Finn's quick thinking and insider knowledge of both SKB itself, and how the FO operates as a whole.

    And Hux was likely a guy who was raised in that system since birth and has become wholeheartedly devoted to it. Which actually makes him a nice contrast to both Kylo (who accepts it but has struggles at times) and Finn (who rejects it completely and goes rogue).
     
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    @RockyRoadCHu mentionedin the First Order thread that Ren bumps Hux walking off the bridge. i never noticed it before, but it's true!
    Hux doesn't react much to being touched/brushed aside by his colleague. so....case of actor (Gleason) missing a potential reaction moment or actor (Driver) accidentally failing to clear the mark because he can't see fer shyte in that bucket?

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    .gif doesn't show it well. but i can't imagine Hux just tolerating that kind of disrespect without any reaction.

    it really makes me wonder how long they've known each other and worked together.
    is Hux just putting on a front of not being intimidated?
    look at his face there. he actually doesn't seem all that certain of himself.
     
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    The mutual loathing. Fantastic catch. They appear to give each other a look just prior to the bump. It's not friendly.
     
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    That is no way for Kylo to treat his superiors. Very disrespectful and childish. You aren't speaking to a stormtrooper Kylo, you're speaking to the First Order's 2nd in command.

    I think Kylo owes Hux a formal apology for being so disrespectful.

    As for the gif, I don't see it as Hux being uncertain of himself, I see it as Hux telling himself "You know what, I'm gonna let that slide, no need in continuing this childish banter". Hux was the bigger man in that confrontation.
     
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    totally! Ren clearly has no idea how to behave with other people, let alone show any kind of appropriate military decorum.

    Hux was the bigger man here, but he sure gets smug later in the chamber with Snoke when he gets to rub Ren's nose in it ~ hahaha

    i would point out though, that Hux does not outank Ren. they are equals, so he's not his superior.
     
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