REYLO - Potential Evidence For & Against

And what exactly does that have to do with an adult's decision to ship two fictional characters together, Magnar?



What does domestic violence have to do with two characters who are currently on opposite sides of a war? Neither words qualify for this situation. Domestic? They are soldiers. Abuse? Well, sure. And unless you're a proponent of ahimsa, I doubt even you'd consider what one soldier does to another on the battlefield as abuse.

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I mean, you rated my post as clouded, so I just assumed you disagreed with what I said. Easy mistake to make. Sweetie.

 

"The Force Awakens is not Beauty and the Beast"

Look at this, at 20:00 if this doesn't work, this can't be coincidences considering the "Star Wars is a fairytale, you need a castle, a prince, a princess, Ben looks like a Prince, Rey is almost like Cinderella, they first meet in the woods in front of Maz's castle" from Abrams, and considering this a Disney production...

And this is the best video to understand the "reylo" thing, watch it.

 

the only answer I have to this is I don't know.

 

FFS SWEETIE LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE. If I want agree with someone I will. I don't need it to be endorsed or given a rubber stamp of approval just because we share the same gender.

 

That's what my ex says too.

Sad.

 

Although, I noticed the hints that can lead to Reylo during my first viewing of TFA, I have to agree on this, especially after I saw the trailer and when raw power was brought by both Snoke and Luke. No, it's not Beauty and the beast. It's the two beasts going to have some sort of relationship and mutual dynamics And eventually we will see if they end tamed or not.
At least that how I see it at this point.

 

We love it at out house. However if you've seen either of the Disney versions. Belle agrees to stay with the beast to save her father. She makes a sacrifice. Beast also never puts her in a torture rack, make veiled I can take what I want threats. Nor does he use his magic to rip into her mind through psychic force and attempt to take what he wants.

Yeah its not objecting to fetishes. Its response to proposing that a scene even the director described with rape language is the foundation of a healthy relationship and that Rey will help redeem him through their romance that Magnar and others don't like about the theory.

 

The vast majority of the victims of domestic violence are adult women. That voluntarily chose to stay with the men they married or live with because....
He may look bad, but he's not.
He banged me against the wall, but that was my fault ("do you still want to kiil me?" Does it look more familiar/creapy, now?)
He loves me, that's why he doesn't want me to leave.("you need a teacher")

You can voluntarily chose to waste your life.
And finctional characters are exactly what's been used for centuries to tell women what to do.
And they still die.

Fictional is not joke.
And this sobject is sensitive.
At least for many more people you think it is.

 

we've already been around this track once before. the comparison to Beauty and the Beast is moot.

these two are enemy combatants in an antagonistic scenario behaving antagonistically toward one another (because that's what enemies do).

there's nothing whatsoever to suggest that if they were to find themselves no longer enemies and if they were to engage in an actual relationship that there would be any abuse between them. they are both hot tempered people. yes, there could be cause for concern. but at the moment we have no basis to judge their behavior in such a scenario.

edit: also, give Rey some credit. she doesn't tolerate one bit of his bad behavior.
why assume she would suddenly become some fainting damsel if they were in a relationship?

 

True. But no one is suggesting she will become a damsel. She fought back from both the mind intrusion and with her sabre. But that hardly seems a good start to a relationship.

 

It's rather odd to me that so many people are advocating for this Willow relationship to occur. Granted, there are some themes of loss of family and identity that they share, but I think Rey is just too independent.

 

it's not. and they are. by saying she capitulates to "domestic violence" or suggesting she's into weird fetish whatever (though i can hardly give that any credibility), it's assuming that she doesn't know better or can't handle herself if he were to be "abusive".

that's my whole point: she beat him every time he attacked her.
she's in no danger of being objectified or abused by him given that evidence.

it's worth having the discussion, but reasonably, and based on evidence.
the assumptions and extremes don't lend anything to a constructive dialogue.

i think both of these characters have a lot to figure out about themselves before they could ever be ready to share anything together.
given the nature of their power, and the need for balance in the Force, maybe they're going to have to figure it out.
that doesn't mean romance. that means cooperation. who knows, maybe even (gasp) friendship.

i hope for his own sake and Leia's that Ben is redeemed and i hope he and Rey figure out how to get along for the good of the galaxy.
the rest of it is jiggery pokery (in Rian Johnson's immortal words).

 

Just wanted to say, I dunno why I always mess up. We all have differing views, nope I don't agree with it am not sure I ever will. I have sent a private apology out and I apologize if I ruffled a few feathers on here. But yeah sorry for the derailment and nope I cannot change my opinion on this and it is kind of creepy to me, I can't shake it. Anyway enjoy the debating. I hate bloody arguing.

 

ReyLo haters: This is sick! How can a woman love a monster who has tortured her?

ReyLogicalists: Is it right for a son to love an abusive father who had killed billions, his mum and tortured him and his sister?

ReyLo haters: [Silence]

And that ladies and gents is Star Wars.
Love conquers the darkness. That's the message.

Suck. It. Up.

 

And this between brother and sister is ... OK ?

What is the difference, I don't really get it ?

It's family thing ?

 

Oh please we have been down this path before.

Luke saw the good in his dad and took steps to try and bring him back to the ligh.

Reylo most times it is proposed is about a growing romance that started when Kylo took off his mask during a session of brutal psychic torture.

A woman who wants to forgive an attacker good for her. A woman who starts a romance with her attacker that is a little different.

Now some noble Reylo fan is going to say its not about romance its about their shared connection but it will be the connection that brings Kylo to the light. That is possible but after seeing the fan fic pictures, the montages of prince and princess motifs it seems people are pushing for romance not compassionate forgiveness.

 

And Rey can't see the light in Ben, as Leia does?
Let's not get carried away though - "brutal psychic torture"?. Ren "felt it too" so they both suffered together. And then Rey reversed it onto him and later kicked his a$$.
Once she sees Ren's plight and understands what Snoke has done to him (she will surely be tempted by the Dark Side too), I see no good reason why we won't see some good old fashioned romancing between these two hotties.

She definitely liked what she saw when he "took off his helmet".

 

When did Luke see good in Daddy ? When he killed the unarmed old man or when he cut his hand ?

 

Like I said if she wants to forgive her great. That's a far cry from and maybe now you two can date.

I'm not being carried away. It was brutal psychic torture. Look at Rey's face it was painful. It looked painful when he did it to Poe.

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When he said, "There is still good in you father." About 1:30 in.