REYLO - Potential Evidence For & Against

Jesus Christ.

When did becoming a mother make you any less of a strong woman?

Also what the actual hell is a strong female character? In my mind, any character who's written with depth and conflict and a 3-dimensional inner mind is worthy of the title. Strength isn't the absence of sin or weakness but the willingness to overcome it.

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It's both the hope of giving Anakin Skywalker's blood a fittingly happy conclusion (by NOT ending it in death and destruction) and also the hope of giving two intensely lonely characters, two characters who have craved belonging, a place to call their own and a FAMILY to call their own.

 

oh absolutely ~ i was just addressing what's in it "for the fans".
obviously for Rey and Ben, it's balance, companionship, and building together. : D

 

It's not about Rey falling for Kylo Ren. It's about Kylo falling for Rey. Btw aren't mothers considered to be brave and strong? I mean good and caring mothers of course.

 

I was trying to build on your sentiment. I absolutely agree with everything you've said. :3

 

A SFC will make sure a beast like Kylo is ended.

 

Vindictiveness presented as a good trait in my strong female characters?



No thanks.

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WE CAME HERE FOR THE ANGST AND STAYED FOR THE MUTUAL SUPPORT AND COMPANIONSHIP

 

yep. she sure will.

#BenSoloLives

: D

 

Spoiler

In this house, we drink canon juice ONLY.

(From the Junior Novelization of The Last Jedi)

 

Huh?

For Reylo to happen, it has to go both ways.

Unless your suggesting it should happen just because Darth sulky wants it?

(This is one of the major flaws with Reylo. Folks think because sad face Vader has a thing for Rey, it should happen. Crazy how people don’t see how gross that is)


Rey can be an SFC and show compassion for Ren. She can show mercy, maybe even help redeem him.

But fall in love with him? Have force babies with him?

What is there for her to fall for at this point?

Reylo fans are projecting onto these characters.


Why should Rey fall for Kylo? Cuz he’s “lonely” like her? Is that all it takes?

This entire Reylo thing is ridiculous.

Again, I’m not saying she needs to slice him in half. She can be a Jedi and show compassion. Hell, I think the saga should end with her sparing his life and imprisoning him. Everyone is expecting redemption and/or death. Surprise us.

Regardless, she can have compassion.

I’m also not saying he shouldn’t have a thing for her.


But the films have provided nothing lovable about Kylo. And that’s ok. He’s the villain.

Even if members of the audience want to see good due to legacy, etc- Rey hasn’t experienced anything with Kylo that would justify romance.

Compassion, pity, anger, sadness, etc....OK. But not romance.


No one wanted Leia to give Vader a shot in 77 or whatever.

This idea that Rey just has to fall for the lonely, angsty, kidnapping, mass-murdering, father-murdering, attempted uncle-mudering, mâle Skywalker is asinine.

It doesn’t have to be lightsaber death or marriage.

And don’t get me started on the issues, including racism, it takes to cheer for Reylo over Reyfinn.

I’m talking about those people who, for some reason, need Rey to be romantically involved with someone- which is yet another set of issues on this topic.

 

The girl literally got dressed and shipped herself FedEx style across the galaxy to save him.

But yeah, you're right.

She doesn't care a whit.

No one, ever, like ever, has suggested that anything romantic should happen because Kylo Ren wants it. You're quite honestly pulling reasons out of thin air and resorting to straw man arguments because you don't have much beyond "ew its gross".

The common argument for ReyLo is that it symbolises the balancing of the force in the coming together of two of its strongest users and in doing so heals the rift and provides a happy and hopeful ending to the Skywalker saga.

And YOU are projecting your own biases on us.

But, nvm that.

The movies have provided him with vulnerability, a healthy dose of sad backstory, tragedy and a rather handsome actor playing him. Sure, he mightn't have resonated with you, but he is without a doubt the most popular character out of the ST.

Toy sales, fanworks featuring him and general recognisability attests to that.

Sure, if you want to reduce it to its bare bones.

They're the only strong force users left. They share an extremely intimate connection in the force bond. He's seen her past and she's taken on his skill set. They each know the other better than anyone else in the galaxy.

and then there's this.

You're either terrible at reading between the lines or are just being willfully blind if you can't see that LF is pushing some form of Reylo in the ST. I'm not even going to sugar coat.

I'd link you to the mountain of "evidence" but I don't have to. You just have to scroll down the thread.

Just because you're not ok with it, doesn't make it wrong.

Sorry.

Sure but the idea that Rey falls for a manipulated, abused, lonely, angsty, prisoner-of-war taking, mass murdering, father murdering, attempted murder avenging, male Skywalker isn't.

Mostly because no one suggests that she's fall in love with him before he redeems himself.

You're right.

Stronk phemale characters need to prove their metlle by remaining single their entire life or wtv.

 

yes, there is nothing left for me. The only reason why I'm still here is that there is an agenda to silence critical voices. This is what some dicators would do. I will die fighting and if this is the last thing I will do in my life. I followed SW for 35 years and I won't leave silent.

 

So to change the subject a bit... I was curious about the Star Wars Spotify playlist of Rey and Kylo. You don't even have to listen to the song, but just read the titles and their spot on. These are the songs for Kylo: A Cross and a Girl named Blessed by Evans Blue, Heart of Fire by Black Veil Brides, Thunder & Lighting by Motorhead, Down with the Sickness by Disturbed, All this Could be Yours by Cold War Kids, Anything 'cept the Truth by Eagles of Death Metal, Revenge by Papa Roach and Got the Life by Korn. Some of Rey's list are: We Found Love by Calvin Harris, Rihanna, No One by Alicia Keys, Our Own House by MisterWives, Phoenix by Olivia Holt, Smoke and Fire, by Sabrina Carpenter, That's Not My Name by The Ting Tings. Some these of course could be just someone thought they were good songs, but all of 'em? There's too many titles here that are spot on with what their characters represent for these to just be because whoever put these together thought they were cool.

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Good luck then cause Disney is never gonna hear you... they're just dumb movies that you can enjoy on a weekend. They're never meant to be taken that seriously.

 

sure, but I can vote with my wallet. Yes, stupid for me that I spent thousands of euros for this the last few years. But I learn, even if it takes time. Boycott is the way to go now.

 

And a great deal of winning comes from saving what we love, not fighting what we hate.

People can choose who they love, dark past or not.

Ideally, I would want everyone I consider to be a "problem" (such as terrorists, extremists, racists, etc) to find redemption, stop living that way, rejoin society, and teach others about the dangers of having believed/participated in those things. Sure, if they've committed murders IRL, they should face justice. But that's IRL, not a mythological space fairy tale in which the characters are essentially gods/demigods.

All this trilogy is doing is telling a story that makes sense given the Act 1 and 2 (PT and OT) set-up. I think part of the reason people still feel like this is a "betrayal" or some sort of grand "new direction" is that they are in denial that the prequels and the story they tell actually mattered and are analyzing the story primarily from "The OT, and more specifically ESB and the parts of ROTJ I like is the only real Star Wars that matters."

 

I agree with all you have said. I realize that I'm wading into shark infested waters here, because I don't get the Reylo ship either. I've read through all the reasons one might ship it and I still can't understand the support. Which is not a big deal, people can support what they want. The thing that gets me is the "proof" that I keep seeing posted that Reylo as a couple is confirmed, or Ben and Rey are "in love." There's nothing that has played out that suggests that. The things I'm reading from the novel suggest that Rey could be the one turn Ben back to the light. She's a compassionate, decent person and maybe she will turn him, but how does that automatically lead to love, marriage and babies? I would be more inclined to believe that there's evidence in favor of this pairing if Ben had done something to protect or save Rey. And you can't say that killing Snoke was that thing, because Rian Johnson said that Kylo decided to kill Snoke even before he got into the throne room. He killed Snoke for his own benefit and then he got angry when she refused to join him, lied that she killed Snoke, and then told Luke he would destroy here. At this point, I'd say that there's little evidence for Reylo and a lot against it.

On another note, someone above said that Kylo and Hux is a ship?? LMAO! Now, that's funny!

 

Yes, Kylux is the most popular SW ship on the internet. Even more than Reylo. Just look for yourself.


We are living in a funny and weird time, I guess.

 

Rey & Ben as a ship really gained a lot of ground with TLJ.
Kylux actually looks to be faltering a bit (guess all that Force-choking and bulkhead-slamming didn't do the ship any favors). : o p

i'll try to look at the fanfict numbers tonight for a more accurate assessment. XD

 

Apparently, the only thing better than one hot villain is TWO hot villains.

Can't say I blame the shippers.

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Mate, it's just a fictional franchise. Don't let it get you down so much.

No one's dictating anything. The internet is big enough for all of us. Find your tribe and er... hate of TLJ?

 

Haha! Wow, it really is a thing! I hadn't heard about that one.

 

This one goes not really against you, ReyLo's (yes not my fave, but everyone can like/dislike what he/she wants) or any people who love TLJ. It is directed towards some special ones and I'm sure you are reading here and know who I mean. These ones ruined today Star Wars forever for me. I'm done, thanks that you managed this. You can be proud of it.