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SPECULATION Rey's parentage, do you still hold the same view you have going into TLJ?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Lord Skywalker, Jun 17, 2017.

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Are your views still the same on her parentage from TFA to TLJ?

  1. Yes, I still believe she is Luke's daughter.

    26 vote(s)
    28.9%
  2. Yes, I still believe she is still a random character

    16 vote(s)
    17.8%
  3. Yes, I still believe she is related to someone else (Obi-Wan, Han/Leia, other)

    13 vote(s)
    14.4%
  4. No, I used to believe she was Luke's daughter, now I believe she is random

    18 vote(s)
    20.0%
  5. No, I used to believe she was Luke's daughter, now I believe she is related to someone else

    7 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. No, I used to believe she was random, now I believe she is Luke's daughter

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. No, I used to believe she was random, now I believe she is related to someone that isn't Luke

    2 vote(s)
    2.2%
  8. Other.

    8 vote(s)
    8.9%
  1. JoJoPenelli

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    My take/predictions:

    Rey is the protagonist, and the ST follows her heros journey. Kylo is the second most important character, and theirs is the most significant relationship in the ST, but not up-front-and-center in each movie.

    Han, but especially Luke and Leia are very important, though not the focus. Because Rey's relationship with Luke and Kylo's with Leia (and possibly a bit of Luke and Leua's relationship) are a big part of what makes this a "family drama" - relationships and conflicts not just intra-generationally but inter-generationally as well.

    If Rey and Kylo's relationship was the primary focus in the way some believe, I would have expected Han's role in TFA to be smaller, and for the key relationship in TLJ NOT to be Rey-Luke but Rey-Kylo.

    I also think that we'll learn about Rey's family in TLJ and see that it did not include a father. Luke will be revealed to be Rey's father in 9, and it will be a "reveal" but NOT a twist (because SW trying another parentage twist? HAHAHAHAHAHA no).

    I think Kylo will reveal something awful about Luke to Rey in TLJ that will make Rey feel horribly betrayed. Maybe something he did resulted in her family's death?

    Kylo will be redeemed. Luke will too, in his own way. Leia would have, as well. (Han's final acts of selflessness and unconditional love represented his own redemption.) We would have seen a lot more of the Leia-Kylo relationship in 9.

    Kylo and Rey represent the Light and Dark of Anakin Skywalker's legacy, although I do think they'll both end up more "grey." Snoke can only be defeated by Rey and Kylo working in harmony.

    I think Kylo will ultimately sacrifice his own life to help defeat Snoke. Because patricide. Yeah. :/

    Some of the above I'm very confident of and believe I've found compelling evidence for. Other bits are more like interesting guesses, of course.
     
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  2. Trev

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    Wow, I actually really like this theory, and I think it makes a lot of sense. I'd be perfectly okay with this theory being how the Sequel Trilogy plays out! Thank you for taking the time to share this! :)
     
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    Thank you for reading! ^_^

    As you might imagine, no Leia in Ep 9 would really complicate the family dynamics x_x; One couldn't just replace her with Luke (which would also, imo, give him too much screen time, despite him being my favorite character - the ST is not about Luke!), but I really think the intergenerational relationships should remain important.

    Of course I reserve the right to amend my predictions in light of reliable spoilers andTLJ's events.
     
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    Of course! I love reading new theories from other fans! :)

    Yeah, I'm sure Leia's fate will definitely have an effect on Episode IX, but after all, this is Star Wars. There are endless possibilities and I have hope—yes, I said that intentionally—that whatever they do with her will do justice to both the character and the actress. I'm hoping that it doesn't mess with the whole family dynamics either, though. As much as I love Luke, I do think it's important to acknowledge that Leia is just as important, and she's a Skywalker, too.

    I'm curious to know how the new film will affect your theory!
     
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    Ok here's the 900 pound gorilla that I'll finally say something about.

    Is this trilogy going to be the end of the Skywalker Bloodline?

    Going into the start of EPIX.

    Option 1 Rey is just Rey.

    Odds of no more Leia, 99.9%
    Kylo/Ben dies (redeemed or not) 80%
    Luke dies, 50%

    I thought that after the passing of Carrie that they would let Luke live but he could always return as a (anakin ghost). No more Skywalkers :(. I doubt the theory that Luke "haves another kid somewhere else".

    Option 2 Rey-lated

    Rey lives 101%
    Leia gone 99.9%
    Kylo/Ben dies 99.9%
    Luke dies 90%

    Which brings us to the year 2027. Episode X The Last Skywalker. How awsome will that be. Rey Skywalker the last hope. And no this time there is NO other!
     
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    If Rey is a Skywalker, her kids will not have the Skywalker name (excluding Rey never knowing the last name of the father or other scenarios) So if she is the only Skywalker child, it still means the end of the Skywalker name.
     
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    Who says her kids would have to be given their father's name?
     
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    Technically speaking, if Rey is anyone other than Luke's daughter, then Luke will probably be the last character with the last name of Skywalker—not that this is particularly important, but it would be a bit strange to continue the Skywalker story without a Skywalker in the picture. Although Ben technically is a Skywalker because of his mother, as the antagonist, there is a chance that he will die in this trilogy's conclusion if he is redeemed. If he is the only Skywalker child in this trilogy—which I don't think is true—then the Skywalker bloodline will end with him.

    If Rey does have children eventually, they don't necessarily have to take the father's name, or it could be a virgin birth like Shmi and Anakin.
     
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    One immaculate conception per space opera saga is more than enough.
     
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    I definitely agree, and I would like to think that that's not the path they choose for any future films. However, being that it happened with Anakin, it can't be completely ruled out because it is a possibility. (Realistically speaking, though, I would like to think that Disney/Lucasfilm learned from all of the backlash the Prequel Trilogy got and will not go that route, should the Skywalker story even continue to the point where Rey does have children.)
     
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    When Rey Whoknows and Finn Bigdeal get married they give the baby the last name Skywalker. Han Skywalker. :p

    Kidding aside if you have no surname you can pick your surname.

    The other option is that Rey is never separated in her noteriety from Luke Skywalker. "We must act quickly to defeat the aprentice of Skywalker."
     
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    Apprentice, hah!

    From interviews it sounds like TLJ won't include much in the way of actual training.

    So what good Luke will be doing for Rey besides spouting some revelatory exposition I can't even guess at this point.

    "Are you the student of Skywalker?"

    "I sorta listened to a couple of his speeches...does that count?"
     
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    How she sees herself isn't the issue whether changed or not is she is closely associated with the Skywalkers by people in the film it carries over.
     
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    I was being jokingly flippant :p
     
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    So Rey finds out she is Lukes Daughter, making her a Skywalker. Next Rey and Finn have a child but Finn has no last name and takes Rey's.

    Han Skywalker will be the next ancestor of Anakin =).

    FinnRey.
     
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    I don't care if in the next trilogy we get a white-black-Arabian-Asian-Amerindian-LGBTQ-WERTY with pink hair as the next protagonist.

    Just as long as it's a Skywalker protagonist, I'll be happy. Especially if Rey is not a Skywalker.
     
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