Rian Johnson's Trilogy

An official announce like they've done for every other director for which they've parted company.

There's a lot of Star Wars projects to go around so it's not a big deal. It does seem like the toxic types who like to remind everyone how much they didn't like TLJ over and over will treat it as a big deal one way or the other.

LOL what?

This kind of professional wrestling type of storytelling works well for TV, but if this is the route they go with every one of these projects they'll have a small dedicated following like WWE.

 

I'd even liken to how Star Trek was for decades.
So inward focused it became very difficult to garner new fans.

 

Hey guys, can we not do this for the gazillionth time? We all know that nothing productive will come from this quarrel very nice discussion of ours. We've had it before, many, many times and nothing has changed since the last time we went over this.

If you don't like Rian Johnson and/or TLJ, then there's literally no reason for you to spend your energy on this sub-forum; just don't watch RJ's (SW) movies and you'll be fine. Have fun with everything else in Star Wars and rejoice in the knowledge that people find meaning and joy in a project that was not for you.

If you, conversely, like Rian Johnson and TLJ, then there's no reason to feed never-ending empty discussions of circular arguments to prove that Rian Johnson is a terrible person or why [insert overanalyzed tidbit of youtube "news" taken out of context] proves that TLJ isn't only dead in the water but was a Kathleen Kennedy plot to destroy men (or whatever it is) all along. There is no point in engaging in this.


Please, move along? I'm tired... The Cantina can't be won.

 

So if 2023 comes and goes and they don't say anything about a trilogy, it wouldn't be a de facto confirmation that it's not happening?

If so, I might actually agree with this because I honestly don't think Rian is going to be offered anything related to SW in the next decade. But years down the line, and the appetite for nostalgia has been quenched and the realization that we have exhausted nearly all of the potential stories of what Lucas has provided in his original galaxy, maybe then there's a pathway (and a willingness among fans to have something new). I just don't think now was that time (or at least , it wasn't a good decision to merge the new story characters with the old ones). I guess they were afraid the new characters wouldn't have enough traction on their own without a hand off. But it feels like they dropped the baton in the exchange lane (to continue the analogy).

I do agree with you that Star Wars is decidedly in a nostalgia trajectory, the Mandalorian series kind of punctuates that. And the fan reception to it, is likely to engender more projects like it.

 

They were so quick to cut ties with everyone else publicly I don't see why they wouldn't move on publicly with Johnson at this point.
Trevorrow just made a billion dollar movie and they cut him late in the process too.

I wouldn't be shocked if we get an ep10,11,12 and Johnson is involved in that. But they wouldn't do that for a few years any way.

I think it would be a shame if Star Wars does continue down the path it is set on. The Galaxy shrinks. It's why I'm most excited for the Acolyte. It was the only thing they announced in live action that isn't directly tied into characters or groups we already know.

 

True but they cut Treverrow before his product ever hit the screen. There wasn't the same back and forth on social media with fans and himself; the associated baggage was minimal (though I also wouldn't expect to see him at the helm of any SW movies any time in the future but perhaps for different reasons).

I don't think there's anything wrong with re-exploring the GFFA that we know and love, and to get a winning feeling back. I don't think it shrinks the galaxy, it just doesn't expand it. And eventually they're going to have to. There's only so many derivations of Storm Troopers, TIEs, X-Wings etc that you can do. Placing stories in the time frame (like Mandalorian) allows them to continue to leverage those things, but you can't do it forever. I know the TIE fighter sound is iconic, but we're going to have to develop other iconic sounds.

I think Alcolyte (and future D+ offerings like it) will be feeler projects, an attempt to expand the galaxy more gently, and then build larger cinematic works off of them. It kind of makes sense, there's less risk, and it gives everyone an opportunity to acclimate to new dynamics. I would think that Alcolyte (or something like it) would be the foreunner/launchpad to what eventually becomes the next trilogy (regardless of who writes it). I think if they craft new stories and areas that feel like they aren't tearing apart the old, but building on it and expanding, there's a much greater chance at success.

And once those new areas "have legs" you can pretty much go crazy because you aren't constrained by legacy characters and entities whose histories are already known and largely fixed.

 

I think we greatly overestimate how much media/fan reaction like we saw after TLJ matters to LFL. It will always come down to money.
In comparison to movies, Mando is cheap to make and they don't have to give portions of that to theaters and distributors etc. They cracked the code.

I don't have a problem with it all. I like the Mandalorian. It's just that's ALL they are doing right now. The next shows are all Mando spinoffs. The last two theatrical releases were nostalgia bait flicks. It feels stalled.

 

I saw the High Republic comic already ran out on its first printing which is encouraging. Lucasfilm is being smart. They're trying to do things to make segments of the fans happy.

A person doesn't have to love every Star Wars project. If the OT era is what you enjoy, then enjoy it. I'm hopeful as the content expands people will let go of what they don't like. Just move on...

 

Yeah, that's my thoughts too. I don't believe it was scrapped due to a negative portion of the fanbase and their reception to Luke, but due to RJ's schedule coupled with covid, and Disney+ success. Rian Johnson has found success in his independent films and clearly wants to capitalise on that instead of being tied down in corporate filmmaking. He put it on hold after all due to wanting to write and film Knives Out 2 first. Then along comes covid, and Disney/ Lucasfilm decide to produce "smaller scale" standalone films instead. The TV side also finds immense success in The Mandalorian. Suddenly a trilogy is no longer necessary. Not to mention while Johnson is busy, Lucasfilm snatch up talent like Patty Jenkins and Taika Waititi.

 

I think it's happening. They didn't tell us otherwise so until then it's not off the table.

 

We haven't heard a peep about Kevin Feige's project or the J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens project either. Silence can mean whatever you want, but it's all speculation.

 

Especially right now with the pandemic putting everything on hold.

 

How do we know that Rogue Squadron is not part of Rian Johnson’s trilogy? Remember, they didn’t say who was actually writing this movie until “a later announcement.” Nor did the specify whether or not RS will be a standalone.

 

As long as there isn't an official announcement, we have to go with what was last said officially. I do believe there are also contracts involved, for whatever reason LFL hasn't announced anything yet unfortunately we'll have to wait for an official announcement. hey, no issues with speculating away...

 

RJ has been working on his 2nd Knives Out project so I doubt he's worked on a Star Wars script. I wouldn't doubt that the J.D. Dillard/Matt Owens project ends up being Rogue Squadron.

 

1. The announcement of a major MP film announced or being put into production between 24-30.
1A. A Harvey Weinstein type of producer who only wants to make profits, hence movies will be made to cater to 15 year old boys who are looking for for fan inserts and want to watch a film repeatedly.

1B . Michael Bay is the next director

2. Is it so bad? Well it would be for
Me given how much I love TLJ and appreciate the fact Johnson likes good storytelling and depth. I also am secretly praying we get a X and I would like for Rian Johnson the real creator of Reylo to direct . But if not , there’s other stuff to watch . Netflix is on a tear with some great thoughtful shows. And Star Trek isn’t going anywhere. Plenty of material with Herberts Dune and I really am looking forward to Asimov’s The Foundation.

 

After the negative experience RJ had with this fandom, it’s completely beyond me why he’d ever want any part of this franchise at this point. That’s what I find so farfetched about his perspective trilogy, “Another bite of this poisoned apple? Ew, don’t mind if I do.”

I agree with George: “Why would I make any more when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”

 

I wouldn’t blame him too much if that was the case. But he didn’t seem to mind them much. In fact, he said Star Wars fans were also the best in his post about The Last Jedi’s anniversary, and I’ve seen him interact well with some of the people who voiced a concern (in a calm way, i don’t think things like “ruined” were mentioned)