Seen anything in The Force Awakens that disappointed you?

Guess you all criticizing Death Star III haven't figured out yet why the Empire/First Order need super Big Weapons



They can't hit the barn with small weapons.

 

Funny, but not exactly correct. According to Ben Kenobi Imperial stormtroopers are pros:

BEN And these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise.

The myth that has been building up over the past decades fails to take one important thing into account:

LEIA That doesn't sound too hard. Besides, they let us go. It's the only explanation for the ease of our escape.

Why didn't Vader have the Millennium Falcon taken apart piece by piece before his eyes? His strategy had been all along to use Leia to find the Rebels' hidden fortress. When he realized he just received a better option (let the Princess escape with the Falcon and follow her) he played along and somehow must have made sure that our heroes would only encounter stormtrooper rookies (or the stormtroopers stationed aboard the Death Star weren't really the best of the best to start with). ;-)

 

The movie citations over Stormtroopers accuracy are right, but has became a precious joke to all of us over the years.

 

Then just let us hope that JJ Abrams got the joke, too...and we see First Order stormtroopers firing with frightening accuracy and precision.

 

the only thing that is really worrying me is that its Abrams film, he has always been great at excitement and intrigue, but his plots rarely make sense.

- star trek 1 was full of plot holes, an invincible mining ship, Kirk becoming captain by smuggling himself on a ship(twice) and then winding up spock till he resigned......
- star trek into darkness: the whole khans buddies been in torpedo tubes was just awful and ruined the whole film.
- Lost while exciting made no sense, and has basically lesson in how not to plot out a tv series.
- Alias again was exciting, but the over all story ark to do with fountain of youth or some nonsense was terrible.

so my main worry for force awakens is that while it will probably be an incredible ride the first viewing, on second viewing the film will sort of fall apart in front of your eyes with plot holes and paper thin logic.

 

I haven't seen anything that disappoints me, per se... but I am curious as to how the climax will play out, because it seems we go from an aerial battle above Takodana to an aerial battle above Starkiller in the final act.
From what we've seen, they both seem pretty full-on action sequences, so it'll be interesting to see how the pacing holds up.

 

Well, stay positive.. He did admit that working with Kasdan was like having a masterclass in storytelling...
http://www.wired.com/2015/11/star-wars-force-awakens-jj-abrams-interview/

 

I guess you'll also know that Abrams only did the pilot of lost? A bunch of other writers wrote the series. There are some issues with his films but all and all they are exciting and work for what they are.

Let's not forget about other Star Trek films that are so much worse then anything Abrams has done, like the save the whales movie or finding God in the centre of the Universe. I think Abrams films are better then that, but that's just me. From what I've seen so far I think the movie will be worst case good and best case? Comparable to the OT.

 

fair point, especially about the star trek films, but can't imagine as director and producer he would have no say at all in the lay out of the story of the films.

think he has to take more responsibility for the problems with Alias and lost ...... he created them both, and the lack of planning at the start of the series really hurt them as the seasons went on.

Don't get me wrong i don't think JJ is all bad, his films/series' are generally massively exciting and brimming with idea's. My worry is pretty much every thing he has worked on follows the same patten, really exciting adrenaline ride the first watch, but the second time through you realise its defiantly excitement over substance.

hopefully though their will be enough other writers and producers involved to make sure the film is not only exciting but the plot actually makes sense.

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i think Abrams created the series so set out the premise it, and i think a massive amount of the problems with Lost was the fact that they didn't seem to have worked out what the island was or anything like that at the start.... so i think Abrams has to take a big chunk of blame for that. Think their are similar issues with Alias too.

i do agree with you that Abrams films arn't the worse star trek films 'The final frontier' takes that hands down, but neither are they a touch on 'wrath of kahn' or 'undiscovered county'.
Also to be fair i thought Abrams entry in the mission impossible series was the best since the first film, so that gives me hope.

Im just saying the lack of cohesive plots in much of Abrams back catalogue of work disappoints me and worries me going into The Force Awakens

 

Then:
The problem with the prequels is that they spend too much time explaining these unnecessarily complicated plots that don't feel like the originals and not enough time on the characters!

Now:
The problem with TFA is that the plot is a rehash of ANH. They're building all these new characters and ignoring the plot!

 

His Star Trek movies are the worst Star Trek movies. And Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home ( whales ) is one of the best Star Trek movies.

 

Yep.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a true Star Trek story.

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier was indeed the worst prior to Abrams Star Trek.

 

I don't even consider the new movies as star trek, they feel like a random sci-fi action movie and not connected to star trek at all. And worst of all the recasting of the original characters , I just can't understand that kind of decisions.

 

Wow! just wow!

 

I agree.
There is nothing ''Star Trek'' in them.
Abrams missed the whole point of Star Trek universe.

He also destroyed Star Trek canon.

 

Star Trek the Motion Picture is awful I mean absolutely horrible. Trek 5 is an abomination. Way way worse than the JJ stories. All odd numbered Trek movies stink, 2 and 6 were great. Nemesis was ridiculous and totally departed from established characters. JJ's movies were fun did in my opinion great homage to the TOS characters.