Thread for those who loved the movie

Maybe...
Probably...
I think it a fair assumption that Luke's mellowed somewhat with age.
I guess the drama in his story lies the few times where/when he isn't less rash!

 

1. Luke never went evil. It was a fleeting moment of weakness when he saw the evil.

2. He is 100% a disgraced former hero. Just ask him. It's how he sees himself. How is he suddenly different? He's still a hermit until the end with Yoda. R2D2 sparks a little of that hope in him but overall he still feels like he failed.

It takes Yoda telling him that failure is okay before he realizes he can STILL be a hero.

 

And Luke's last words were way more hopeful compared to Yoda. "I will not be the last Jedi" Yoda: "the last of the Jedi, you will be."

 

i remember him saying that he cut himself off from the force and obviously was chilling "alone" in anch-to but was his failure as a teacher/ben's fall the reason for it?

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1. don't remember saying he went evil but i wouldn't really classify it as a fleeting moment seeing as how he went at night with lightsaber in hand to actually kill ben. it's not like he happened to be in ben's bedroom with lightsaber accidentally in his hand.

2. just because someone sees themself as something doesn't make it so. this isn't really the same but i've often seen myself as a failure after a game even though i've actually played well compared to others.
He is suddenly different for the reasons already mentioned, first he was a complete hermit, didn't want to see rey or anyone else and then suddenly he decided to use the force to help the resistance. i honestly don't remember anything meaningful happening in between. Sure he did "train" rey for a few minutes but that's about it.

 

yes.

"Han was...Han about it. But Leia...trusted me with her son.
I took him, with a dozen students, and began a training temple.
By the time I realised I was no match for the darkness rising in him, it was too late.
I went to confront him. But he turned on me.
He must have thought I was dead. When I came to, the temple was burning.
He’d vanished with a handful of my students, and slaughtered the rest.

Leia blamed Snoke, but… it was me.

I failed.

Because I was Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master. A legend."​

 

1. Cold blooded murder is evil. Sorry I made the intuitive leap if you weren't. It was a fleeting moment. it wasn't his intention on going in there to murder him. It was after he read his mind that he drew his lightsaber.

2. Yes, it does in the sense of a story narrative. Luke sees himself as disgraced and a failure. That is why he is there. He chooses to be a solitary hermit because of this. You coincidentally skip over WHY he's there when trying to deny he's a disgraced hero...convenient.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME.
Like seriously. Are you kidding me?

At least watch the movie with your eyes open before commenting.

1. The R2 message gets him to open to training Rey. Even if it's for the wrong reasons.
2. He reconnects with the force and senses Leia is in danger. He then runs to Rey but she's with Kylo.
3. THE WHOLE GODDAMN YODA SCENE

Nothing meaningful my aching arse.

 

breathe. ; D

 

if it wasn't his intention, why did he go and why did he bring his lightsaber? i know people say that the jedi never go anywhere without their lightsabers but still, in the middle of the night just screams to me that he must have picked his saber up and then went to wherever ben slept and that in turn screams premeditation.
story narrative fine, but i don't see it as character progression to understand that he isn't a complete failure.

dude, i watched it once and it was like 6 months ago, im sorry for not remembering everything, relax.
the yoda scene was pretty irrelevant, the r2 message as in the "that's a cheap move" or whatever he says after r2 plays the obi-wan clip?
don't remember the 2. point but honestly, that's weak. like really weak.
not even kidding, that's not that much of progression.

 

Bye Felicia.

 

Yeah, not worth wasting your time. Some people just like to stir the pot.

 

lazy SaTURDAY watching Rogue One... Jyn come on lets go...

 

Me after rewatching TLJ yesterday:

I try to empathize with people who don't like it as much as I do, but then I rewatch it and cannot stop thinking how absolutely amazing it is. Well, I guess everyone's expectations towards films are different. I just think they're missing out on a bundle of joy TLJ is.

 

you don't have to explain why you like a film its just a movie. i like Batman v Superman, Suicide Squad, justice league, and Man of Steel. I own several copies of the prequels, i don't waste my time on movies I dislike, i try not to think of films i don't like simply because i don't like it.

 

My wife was sick so she watched the movie again today. I've lost count of how many times I've seen it now, but I'm shocked at how it sucks me in each time. John Williams score for The Last Jedi is perhaps his best ever? Williams work is always praised, but there are so many great music moments in the film. It's no wonder RJ asked for a music only version of the film.

I expect JJ to make a really fun film to end this trilogy, but I really think we'll look back at The Last Jedi as the real jewel from this trilogy. The set pieces in this film are phenomenal.

 

Yes! The whole soundscape of TLJ, including sound effects, is great.

 

We've talked how great some of the minor characters are in this film, but one of the best moments in the film (there are so many) is Paige Tico's sacrifice on the bomber. That entire sequence is just a master class in visual storytelling.



It makes me appreciate Rose so much more having this connection to her sister.

 

Agree. And again the division. Screen split in two. It rhymes!

 

I wish we got more Paige. Her death didn't have the emotional punch till after when you realize they're sisters.

 

I disagree. Her death isn't about Rose. Her death is about the movie's theme. She's a member of the Resistance and despite her very brief appearance onscreen she was able to do something incredibly heroic. Sure, "death of a member of family" angle is an important one, but at the beginning it's about heroism of average Joes/Joannes.