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Who you gonna call? - Ghostbusters (2016 All Female Reboot)

Discussion in 'Film' started by D1474, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. AstromechRecords

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    I DON'T JOKE ABOUT GHOSTBUSTERS .
     
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    Oh damn...<ejects>
     
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    That's the joke.
     
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    Okay, so when people talk to me about paid reviews the first thing that I always think of is this:
    [​IMG]
    Look at that blurbmeister quote.
    This film gets a pitiful 11% over on "Rotten Tatters", you know, that site that "grossly inflates" it's scores.
    A long time ago ABCnews had a guy named John Stossel. He went looking for Bonnie Churchill. This is a transcript of his report I watched on 20/20 waaaay back in the day:
    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=124091&page=1
    And this is a vastly superior article on the matter published a few years prior:
    http://articles.latimes.com/1997-03-24/news/mn-41536_1_movie-ads
    I found Bonnie Churchill here:
    http://www.criticschoice.com/members/bchurchill/
    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0161416/bio
    The following is her entire film career:

    Child actress.
    Her website is currently a Chinese blog. Her last 'review' was a 2008 film.
    RT does not include Bonnie Churchill's 'review' of Croc3 in it's score. In fact, she's not even listed as a critic; they consider her an obscure celeb.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 11, 2016, Original Post Date: Jul 11, 2016 ---
    And you quote first a 2002 article during the blurbmeister controversy era, rightfully so.. but then want me to conclude that Sony still has a cadre of ninja reviewers on standby because George Clooney is whiny and desperate and "asking for protection". Well I think that request for protection went unanswered for a reason.. there is none to give.
    So, bringing Devin Faraci back into this.. Here's a guy that took a big $#!% on TFA just a few months ago:
    https://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet....-and-calls-jj-hollywoods-greatest-mimic.8242/
    And then we see his article about Ghostbusters:
    http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/07/10/ghostbusters-review-bad-news-for-the-ghostbros
    And there is not one use of the word 'fanfiction'.
    So am I supposed to believe that he's paid by Sony!? Folks, if he was taking money from Sony we'd know about it because he was working for Badass Digest and speaking his mind about things during the dox'd time period cataloged in the Sony Hack. There is nothing in the Sony Hack showing Sony paying Devin Faraci or anyone else to make favorable statements for Sony IPs. If a whiny George Clooney is the only thing you can out of that data dump then those accusations are bupkis. They can't do it since they got busted in '02 and lucky they didn't because North Korea would have sent them back into the courthouse.
    You guys wanna see a solid 'conspiracy' pulled out the Sony Hack, here you go:

    And before anybody starts posting about Island Arcade:cool::
     
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    taters* ;) .
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 11, 2016 ---
    they're like newspapers who have theire typical sources they always go to who can guarantee a good review as in; "you scratch my back and I scratch yours."
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 11, 2016 ---
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    Yeah, but we live in a world of smartphones that can bring up IMDB and RT with a few taps.. The general public attitude toward blurbmiesters nowadays is:
    [​IMG]
     
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    Rogert Ebert was the last of them :|
     
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    This is just sad at this point. How pointless must someone's existence be to spend their time doing this stuff?
    http://screencrush.com/ghostbusters-imdb-what-the/

     
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    That's not surprising at all. We saw the angry PT and EU fanboys do the exact same thing to TFA on that site. I had to go through a +150 pages of butthurt just to get to positive user reviews of TFA. Well over 50% off those accounts were created the day of TFA's release and have little if any other reviews on them.
    Wow, they pushed it down to 3.8.. So much for those proprietary algorithms..:oops:
     
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    Well said, I can't stand behavior like that in fandom. It's just like when all the butthurt BvS fans were whining about critic bias and putting forth absurd conspiracy theories about Disney paying critics to give it bad reviews. In reality though, Disney would have been wasting their money considering critics were destined to give it bad reviews based on the fact that the theatrical cut was an unfocused, self-important, bloated, dour train wreck of a film(I have heard the directors cut is big improvement however). Reshaping reality to fit one's own personal narrative is pathetic, even more so when it involves whether other people like a piece of pop culture that you do or don't.

    As for this new Ghostbusters movie, I never really cared that much about it. Sure, all of the marketing for the film has been generally unfunny and terrible, but not in any way that I found to be particularly offensive. It just looked like another uninspired reboot in a long line of uninspired reboots. I figured it would probably do OK, but get middling reviews, which seems to be the case so far. Yes, the film is currently fresh on RT, but the average score is 6.5 out of 10, so a D at this point in time. The folks over at Collider all rated it about the same in their reviews as well, an entertaining enough film with some definite noticeable flaws.

    I will say this though, Sony definitely has been dishonest in their portrayal of all of the dissatisfied fans as sexist trolls though. As the Midnights Edge videos that @Talon Karrde mentioned point out, Sony has done some rather underhanded things like deleting negative comments on their trailer, but leaving all the sexist ones in order to manufacture an issue that really didn't exist outside of a small minority of idiots. Sadly, a lot of SJW types are eating it right up to.

    The only thing about this movie that has actually angered me though was hearing Fall Out Boy's rendition of the theme song. Seriously awful stuff, my expectations at hearing Fall Out Boy was covering the song were already at rock bottom, but man did they still manage to surprise me in how awful it was. I'm pretty sure that forcing people to listen to it is probably outlawed by the Geneva Convention somehow.
     
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    Dear God, that song sucks.. Missy Elliot's lyric's sounds like something she wrote while sitting on the commode smoking a blunt.:mad:
    You bring up a good point about their tactics. I think it was Mundane Matt who said that Sony has just decided to go all in on trolling this mysoginy angle to sell tickets. They've certainly chosen a marketing strategy that is... original.:eek:
    But then again, maybe we're not seeing the 'bigger picture' here. Maybe.. just maybe.. an even more devious plot is afoot..:rolleyes:
     
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    Regardless of what Sony has done to boost the awareness of the sexist and arrested development types within the ranks of haters to promote their movie, in the end it is the public perception because it does exist, even if it is a minority. And this perception is growing with every Ghostbuster, Human Torch, and Black Stormtrooper. Just like any group, if there is a vocal minority of hateful and despicable people, it will be the focus to outsiders. Fandom is defined by our racist and sexist trolls just as "SJW's" are negatively defined by the minority of knee-jerk over reactors.

    Fandom would do well, I think, to stop being defensive about being associated with these people and instead police them. Sadly there is a strong, vocal, and sometimes very organized minority within our ranks that are hideously racist and sexist, but instead of calling them out, we tend to immediately say "but that's not all of us". "Stop labeling us because of this vocal minority!" But as long as they are the louder portion of fandom, they will represent how we are seen. And I think its not the fault of the media, or "SJW's". Its our fault for not immediately drowning them out and condemning them for what they do. There are more of us than there are of them. If we wanted to we could pounce on every comment, drown out every protest. But we don't.
     
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    I myself am not exactly the biggest fan of TFA by any means but even that is pretty low thing to do .
     
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    Well, I think it's a nice ideal, but IMHO to many in the fandom these "agents" are "the Devil they know" and what you are proposing is "the Angel they don't know". Goes double for the SJW too, btw. The interpretation is that these guys, no matter how off the hinges they are, get results.
    I like to think about Fredrick Douglas as a good allegory. Douglas used John Brown's memory during and after the Civil War to get his agenda promoted, and got a lot of results out of it. But what many don't know is that John Brown offered Douglas a spot on the raid team. Douglas declined the offer.
    So, it's kinda the human machiavellian nature of "kings and commanders" to play these extremes in this push/pull sort of way.
    My two cents on the matter anyway.
     
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    And that is my essential problem with these communities in general. A little more striving towards ideals and fewer blind eyes towards our cynical natures would go a long way. It is the modern curse to accept and ignore because we have been overexposed to the frailties of human morals. We are too aware and accepting of the "realities of our nature" in my opinion. Ideals are there for a reason. They may never be reached, but if you strive for them you make things better in small increments. If you give up and cease striving for the ideal, things just keep spiraling downwards and those who ignore it are complicit in the end result.

    This just got really philosophical fast. Sorry about that. :)
     
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    As bad as the hate is, I said this recently, this movie either should not have happened at all or it shouldn't have been titled, "GHOSTBUSTERS" especially if the idea is to "world build.
    "
     
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    I mean, I'm with you. I'd have preferred they stop with all the reboots and start making some original movies again. But this is no better or worse than any of the other reboots/rehashes out there. And not agreeing with the idea of a reboot doesn't excuse the behavior to me.
     
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    AT LEAST call it GHOSTBUSTERS: The Next Generation ;) .
     
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    Its not though. The original 84 Ghostbusters do not exist in the universe of the new movie.
     
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