SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Of course not. She's the main hero of the trilogy. But the movie will focus on their relationship and adventures. It will mirror in many ways Luke's discovery and training for the OT in ESB.

 

We actually don't know yet. It could be something else. We're used to think like that because we have nothing more in our sleeves.

I really hope the story group has something different to bring to the table.

 

I, for one, WANT to see a Master Luke training a padawan, see his power and growth, he will be very different than Yoda and Obi Wan. Rey will be different than Luke and probably more like Anakin in demeanor, but less willing to be manipulated like Anakin.

Plus we're going to get a great story of what Poe and Finn are up to, and what Leia is dealing with will be very different than any SW movie.

 

All I am saying is that if Luke and Rey are not really the last Jedi, and they end up producing more Jedi in the future, then it will be limiting as to what they can name future episodes... if there are any. Again, it is more of a big picture, future kind of thing. If you call someone "the Last" in a movie title, especially an ongoing episodic saga where the word "Jedi" has already appeared, it suggests to me more than just that person is the last one in existence right now.

Can they just mean, Luke Skywalker, the last Jedi as of 36 ABY? Sure... there is no question that is what the opening crawl of TFA meant when it described Luke as the last Jedi and what Yoda meant when he said "When I am gone, the last of the Jedi will you be." But when you put it in the title of the movie, "The Last Jedi", it seems to have more finality to it... at least to me. If nothing else, I think they are at least signaling the potential that Luke Skywalker and/or Rey is the very last Jedi that will ever be... I guess from that perspective, maybe it ups the tension. But again, they can't come back 15 years from now and use "Jedi" in a title in any present tense way ("The Jedi Come Back" or "The Jedi Are Not Extinct") that will not make some people look back at Episode VIII and think, well that wasn't really true...

As I said, if Luke (and/or Rey) teaches anyone else and they become a Jedi.... he (or they, since it can be plural) will cease to be the Last Jedi.

This is a good point, though... (taken from another thread)

 

I have to confess that I'm not that interested in Finn and Poe.

I like the Force story not really the resistance one.

 

So you wanted Finn to be an awesome pilot who could use the force and ultimately be the one to blow up the death star looking thing.......very original.

You do realize they don't have to end the Skywalker saga to make other "sagas" right?

 

I have to admit that I think the title makes this more probable... although I am not thrilled if that is the case. "The Last Jedi" sounds like a very simple, yet cool title... but I am quite apprehensive as to what it really means for the Skywalker Saga going forward... or not going forward.

 

A normal you're jumping to conclusions and reading things wrong.

Leia says they are goign to do their best to save Rey when they clearly have a bigger, larger danger on their plate. Someone in Leia's position giving an individual even a 2nd thought shows she is concerned. Your 2nd one doesn't show that Leia doesn'tknow her name. And Maz doesn't say she doesn't know what it means, just that it means something special (being a Skywalker would be special right? )

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For someone who is, apparently, all about originality, its not a very original idea. Thats all. Its almost like you care more about the last name then originality..........

Its funny, you think Skywalkers are to powerful to be the main characters, yet you want OTHER characters to be the big powerful ones..........

And no, I didn't see that post when I responded. Look up.

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Assuming this means there will never be another Jedi or something is silly. The Emprie Strikes Back didn't meant he Empire will always be getting the upper hand on the good guys - just in that movie.

 

You mean she isn't allowing her emotions to potentially compromise a military oppertation with galaxy wide consequences? Wow, that sounds almost......responsible. Yet she does allow her ex-husband and a soldier to go save her......almost sounds like she cares.

You meant he quote were Leia wants to know everything about her and how to locate her? Ya she doesn't care.........

And it trails off - that is hardly proof that Maz doesn't know what I means. You're filling in dialog with what you want it to be.

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I know, I'm just laughing at your cause your whole thing with the Skywalker is "I want something original" then "I want Finn to be Luke V2.0"

If you think Finn is just cannon fodder, well I guess I shouldn't be surprised you seem to think nothing important never happens off-screen for storytelling reasons.........

 

For anyone reading, whatever man whatever is what someone who is wrong but doesn't want to admit it says.

No personal connectino - she just wants to know everything about her and to locate her. Why would want to do that if she doesn't care about Rey?

LMAO - unless you are going to claim that ... means "I don't know" then that page doesn't mean what you think it does. I understand your fustration. You REALLY want the evidence to mean something, but it just doesn't. When the evidence doesn't add up the way you want and others refuse to buy into your version of things because of it, doesn't mean they won't listen to reason. Quite the contrary, you're the one who refuses to listen to reason to see how these things don't add up the way you think they do. You're too invested in Skywalker = bad to allow for that.

Fact is - they have purposely not committed one way or the other about it. There is reason to believe Rey isn't Lukes daughter and reason to believe she is. Han could have told Maz she is Lukes daughter when Maz asked who she is, he could have said "no one" - WE DON'T KNOW. Leia could not care about Rey because she is no one, or she could be sending Rey to Luke instead of going herself because she thinks Daughter and Father should have that meeting on their own. Every character not puking information out at every possible moment doesn't mean the characters don't have the information or the info won't be revealed later - see R2 with the Lightsaber.

 

A lost Skywalker child isn't a new idea. It's an old one from 3 episodes ago.

We know there will be more Jedi. One of the first lines of The Force Awakens is by Lor San Tekka: “Without the Jedi, there can be no balance to the Force.” Snoke is worried about Luke returning and raising the Jedi. It seems to very much that this trilogy is really about Luke/Rey building the Jedi Order again. It's a Skywalker film with or without Rey being a Skywalker because she's tied to Luke. Kylo Ren and Leia are also Skywalkers. The Skywalker family drama is at the center of this story.

 

Well obviously. But without a doubt Mark Hamill will have top billing like Harrison Ford did in TFA.

 

Maybe. We'll see.

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But we can't only look at this trilogy in a vaccum. Even if they take years between Episodes IX and X, they are going to want to leave themselves the creative ability to continue on.

 

I bet Boba's barthed up armour that Mark Hamill has top billing.

I mean, we'll have him in the film from the get-go. We didn't get Han until the start of the second act of TFA!