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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    288 vote(s)
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  3. Undecided

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    19.2%
  1. Moral Hazard

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    Ha! We do love to draw big conclusions from small bits of information here!

    Here's another: Rey has the makings of a wise Jedi because when faced with the opportunity to kill a defensless enemy and a voice in her head saying "kill him" she exercised caution, took pause and drew some deep breaths. Such instinct should serve her well on a Jedi path.

    (Random observation: I've watched your English really improve over this thread and is sounding excellent. The only downside now is that you've lost a good excuse for any mistakes - any future language errors now risk being taken as thinking errors! :eek: ;))
    Either way is fine by me. Just look at the OT, good SW stories often start with a mess that need protagonists to resolve!
    And you may find others who are so tied to the idea Luke shouldn't have children that any alternative theories are greeted with hostility! :rolleyes: :p

    Welcome to the Cantina @Master Skywalker , you'll find things are generally pretty tame around these parts...

    nothing to see here please disperse.gif
     
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    Chewbacca suspects he know who Rey really is
     
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    He's straight giving her the "You got your white ass caught and got Han killed in the process" side eye.

    Or the "If things don't work out with Finn or Poe...." side eye
     
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    For the nth time, Rey doesn't have to be a Skywalker to fulfill the two qualifiers you have! She can be the protagonist and NOT be a Skywalker. The ST is still about the Skywalkers, with or without her being related.

    I'm not trying to argue either way: there's still part of me that thinks her being Luke's daughter would be legit; my vote still stands at undecided.

    The way I look at it, she's either Luke's daughter and she fulfills the specific Skywalker trope you're hoping for, OR she's not a Skywalker and we're all going to have to deal with it.

    IF the second is true, I think it puts a lot more emphasis on Ben's story which, to me, is super interesting.
     
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    Sounds that the Skywalker saga will end in Ep IX considering Disney's plan so they have to wrap this with something bigger than the first six movies.

    That's a bit of a challenge.

    Disney wrote Finn, Rey, Poe and Kylo Ren knowing they will end the Skywalker saga.
     
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    why is this thread still alive?
     
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    Where does disney say that? Would be multi billion dollar blunder to end Skywalker family.
     
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    Source for that info.
     
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    Or... they are ending "this" Skywalker family saga, to open another Skywalker family saga changing just the family name....
    Maybe giving Anakin Skywalker another chance, another name and another destiny.


    I know it sound absurd, but if (I'll say it again: if) they'are doing something crazy, that will be what serves two purposes in one go.
    Ending a serie of 9 movies, opening a brand new serie of 9 movie (potentially)

    (yes: I confess, I have a crazy theory too and some clues... but who does not? :D )
     
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    Rey's involvement in this adventure seemingly hinges on a chance encounter with bb8 in need of rescuing. If Rey were a Skywalker, wouldnt this be pretty improbable that the droid with the map just happens to cross paths with the long lost daughter of our hero of heroes? And even if Rey's parentage is mundane, she is still this oneofakind latent force badass. Was this lame writing on Abram's part. or could there be reason bb8 happened by her digs?
     
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    There ending nothing lol. If anything, it will multiply as any normal family tree would
    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 25, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 25, 2017 ---
    A new hope was a chance encounter of r2d2 with Luke. The droids are pivotal.
     
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    Yeah, to be fair you've just described the opening gambit of A New Hope. Was it luck that R2 found Luke and brought him to Kenobi or was it the Force?
    I think there is certainly a connection between Rey and the Skywalker's that will keep this story Skywalker centric (both through Rey but also Kylo of course). What that connection is though is essentially what this whole discussion is about.

    Will she just be another Skywalker thus ensuring a repetition of the same story? Or will she be connected in another way that provides an alternative, surprising and fresh approach? I hope the latter.
     
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    For the Nth time, yes she does. Every previous Skywalker saga story has had a Skywalker, by blood, as the main protagonist (Anakin, Luke and Leia). It's the one thing that separates Skywalker saga stories from other stories that one or more Skywalkers just happen to appear in (Shattered Empire, Rogue One, etc.). Rey is confirmed as being the main protagonist of the ST. Therefore, only by Rey being a Skywalker by blood, can the ST truly qualify as a Skywalker saga trilogy.
     
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    The Saga films revolve around the Skywalker family. The standalone films revolve around other events. Rey not being a Skywalker makes the events revolve around the family no less than it would if Rey was the result of an incestuous relationship between Luke and Leia. As long as this story charts the legacy of Vader and is about events centred around his family, then it will remain a Skywalker family story.

    JJ has been clear that genetics and bloodline means very little compared with the original notions he had of the Force that centred on faith and belief. It would then be odd to throw away the chance to tell this kind of story through Rey by making her character dependent upon her own bloodline and genes. This saga is about how Luke went into exile and was being sought out by his sister. It's about how the grandson of Darth Vader fell to the Dark Side and his path to redemption or oblivion. It's about how Luke needs to rebuild the Jedi Order. Rey is involved in all of this Skywalker stuff. I just don't for the life of me see why she has to be a Skywalker to keep this saga Skywalker-centric! Though she's probably going to get it on with Ren anyway, so there is that.
     
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    Found this on Tumblr and this is related to Rey Skywalker or Rey Solo:

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    It didn't work with his own father (familial love), why a Rey Skywalker or Rey Solo (familial love again) would succeed and bring back Kylo to the light? Because it's 100% sure he will be redeemed because of Rey (there's a lot of hints) and will not die as a "bad guy" at the end of this trilogy.
     
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    Disney doesn't give murders, mass murders,torturers, father killers, defensless old man killers a romantic plot, are you serious? Neither does LFL. Anakin got his romance while he was a good guy, not after he fell.

    Oh man, Rey and Ben aren't having a romance. Can't you all see there doing a 21st century remake of the OT. There be some changes, but core story is going no where. It's so obvious, and so right.

    We tried romance, and the fans tore it to shreds.

    We may well have a romance story involved in the ST, like Han and Leias, but no way is it or main hero, or the main story. It will take a side step.

    She will love her family.

    The OT Star Wars changed the world, not just film making, there ain't messing with that OT forumula

    Ben ain't getting a happy ending, at best, he'll be redeemed. But no happy ending. He's to bad a guy. Cold blooded old man murderer. Father killer. Torturer. Mind messer, Poe torture, strangler. He WILL come back to the light at the end. But no fuzzy happiness.
     
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    Yes, just once, when he said we'll find out what it means in TLJ.
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    If it was a wedding ring, I'm pretty sure he'd have said so by now since that's not a spoiler so... And obviously it has some kind of meaning.
     
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    In the original "Star Wars" Obiwan was keeping tabs on Luke, and would have eventually said something to him about his, you know, cosmic destiny even if the droids hadn't shown up. Different storyline, same journey.

    If Rey doesn't connect with bb8, she becomes that old woman at the washing station.
     
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    Couldn't the same cosmic destiny have led Rey to Finn, Poe, LST,or... well can just say Lukeand Rey were destined for this regardless. Just the story writers like a good droid since th generate a truck ton of merchandise revenue =]
     
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    Because Rey is the main protagonist so the story is about her and her journey no matter how big a role any of the known Skywalkers play in the story. Rey's true identity and only her identity is what makes the ST a Skywalker saga story or the story of someone else that some Skywalkers happen to appear in. There is no other option. It's not a Skywalker saga story if it's not about a Skywalker and It's only about the Skywalker family if a Skywalker by blood is the main protagonist.
     
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