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SPECULATION Is Luke Rey's Father? - The Evidence For and Against

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by master_shaitan, Feb 17, 2016.

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Is Rey the daughter of Luke Skywalker

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. MagnarTheGreat

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    Rey's family is a twist. Like
    Kubo and the Two Strings
    across three moves.

    Rey Random would just be an additional character bullet point.

    A type of twist necessitates a reevaluation of what has come before in the story by the audience.

    The Nolan brothers do this quite a bit.

    Denis Villeneuve did this in
    Arrival.

    Like the original trilogy of Star Wars. Like for the prequel trilogy and the new audience that didn't connect Palpatine to Sidious.

    That's also why I go with 'Rey' Solo. It invites that recontextualizing that movie and book stories do.

    It also gives the most mileage to the other major characters in the story, including to the antagonist (Kylo Ren) and mentor (Han Solo) of The Force Awakens. 'Rey''s backstory would benefit the other major characters participating in the story besides herself.
     
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    And what will be the new interpretation of Solo doesn't give a damn of Rey going back to Jakku to wait for him after he offered his long last daughter a bad paid job ?

    Those Solo parents are horrible.

    The twist is Kylo Ren is right from the start, the evil people are not the one we think.
     
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    Rey being related to any of the major characters wouldn't be a twist. It could certainly happen, but the most obvious answer isn't a twist. A twist would have to be something the audience doesn't expect. As far as benefiting the other characters just because she shares their DNA... that's obviously your personal preference.

    A twist would be something like...

    Kylo Ren reveals to Rey that her parents were former pupils of Snoke and Luke killed them. Something like that would would create conflict. It would also be a surprise.
     
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    I wouldn't find that "twist" surprising at all.
     
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    I wasn't asking for notes on my example, but thanks... I'll keep than in mind if I have to write a Star Wars screenplay. :rolleyes:

    The point is Rey being related to a Skywalker isn't a twist. Pretty much anything else would be a surprising choice.
     
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    The audience doesn't expect 'Rey' Solo after TFA like the audience didn't expect Darth Skywalker and Leia Skywalker 40 years ago. At least that is what I've seen in the online polls.
     
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    If you don't want "notes" on something don't post in a public forum

    Rey's parents being killed isn't a twist.

    Not all twists come out of nowhere - some twists are foreshadowed and hinted at before they happen. If rey is Lukes daughter it would fall into that catagory.
     
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    Love you @MagnarTheGreat, but you're too invested in this outcome to see it clearly. Rey turning into a Ben's sisters really wouldn't be that surprising. It might be for those of us who have been following closely, but not really to the general audience.
     
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    Yes, and you're not invested in one outcome over the other at all. And your cute little meme doesn't mean foreshadowing doesn't exist.
     
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    Actually, from all the polls I've seen, there are two popular outcomes : Luke and Han & Leia.

    But moreover, it would require some flashbacks and no impact to the future story because both Han and Leia will not be in Ep IX.

    And it would obviously make Han Solo a terrible human being considering how he interacted with Rey, Maz Kanata's speech would be a terrible hoax but if people are Ok with this ... Whatever.

    But I still doubt there will be a family twist, maybe no twist at all, if Disney went lazy, it could be the answer.
     
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    Thank you. I'll be happy with whatever direction they choose to go. I really wanted her to be Luke's daughter, but I'm fine with whatever. I can still think you're wrong or confused. No crime in that.
    Yeah, it's one of the most common theories out there.
     
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    You say that, but you won't be. You spend all your time on here saying how every idea OTHER then Rey being "a random" makes no sense and is stupid. You're invested - probably more then most.
     
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    Im thinking more and more what i said earlier in this thread that it is pointless trying to work out who Rey's parents are by watching 'The Force Awakens' becuase i don't think J.J. Abrams had worked out who her parents where when he wrote the script.

    Johnson has said their was no mapped out story when he came on board, so i think Abrams did his usual thing of making an exciting film and worry what it all meant later, and they had no idea who Rey's parents where.
     
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    I think they knew who they weren't.
    Other than that it was very open
     
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    This does seem to be the case based on what we've learned recently. Now we do know that RJ worked with JJ to make small changes and the forceback scene was something they were working on late in the film.

    @MagnarTheGreat has been very curious about Leia's ring since it's not mentioned in the visual encyclopedia and because Hidalgo hasn't answered questions about it. Although it does seem unlikely the production crew was dropping future film hints when they didn't even know the future.
     
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    The idea behind using Leia's prominent dual stone ring would be like the Japor Snippet of the prequel films.



    Everything doesn't hinge on the ring. It would just be an additional detail to symbolize the story.
     
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    Yes but it is a detail in the movie, I mean you don't get it at first sight.

    The Jabor Snippet had a entire scene, the ring is not shown as a thing.
     
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    From the canon novelization of TFA:

    "I'm proud of what you're about to do," she told the girl.

    Rey replied in all seriousness. "But you're also afraid. In sending me away, you're ---reminded."

    Leia straightened. "You won't share the fate of our son."

    Leia doesn't recognize her daughter even with the Force? Leia is strong with the Force, she has carried Rey for many months, there should be a connection...

    Or she doesn't say to Rey that she is her daughter? That would be ridiculous...
     
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    The ring is not a thing. If the ring were a thing then the thing would be a bigger thing and then we'd know the thing about the ring thing
     
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    The ring is prominently in many TFA shots and promotional material for Leia. Who says that Episode VIII or IX it doesn't get a scene? I could see Kylo Ren mentioning it in a scene with Leia and scoffing at her. It's not necessary but not impossible.

    The story isn't over. TFA isn't the end of all the story. That's not the way this works.
     
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