THREAD FOR THOSE WHO HATED THE MOVIE

Trevor,

the other guy believes in his version (and he things I am wrong - will you ask him the same question?) while I sincerely believe mine, that´s how the world works. It´s just my personal opinion, I´m not saying it´s world´s truth. I believe TLJ affected Solo and I´m not alone, there are movie and news sites across the world with the same opinion. And mentioning E9 I had in mind that we will see if TLJ affects it too. Of course the situation could be the same as now, with fans divided. But we are still fans. Some of us loves EU, some not. Some enjoy only OT, some the whole package....I´m using simplistic words due to my not so good english (only 2 years at high school so many years ago) so I may sometimes not express myself as correctly as I would do in other languages. About Solo I operate just with internet information and what those who saw the film told me. I didn´t see it, not because TLJ but because I was never interested in Solo Origin since the beginning. And I do think that in past few years those responsible for giving a green light made not so good decisions and it clearly affects the brand, just look at Solo and its financial flop. We fanboys care about our Star Wars universe, and perhaps our critical voices will help from degrading the franchise. And I´m not talking about SJW, but good stories, good directors, screenwriters, to make again every new movie to be an event. These days a lot of my friends didn´t even know a Star Wars movie is out.. I understand there are fans who fights for everything Star Wars and don´t see any problems/or see it but doesn´t like to talk about it. But this thread is about discussing what we didn´t like, there are tons of other threads with differents topics where people can share their happiness about this and that, here we mostly share our sadness and I believe we are educated here and no calling names or spreading hate.

 

It would Be foolish to think TLJ didn’t upset anything at all; They keep saying everything is fine, but Solo has crashed and burned. You can’t argue with numbers. Star Wars fatigue? I doubt it. Fans not interested in a Solo movie? Most likely; but I’m sure some fans that hated TLJ did stay away, it is a possibility.

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I think it’s nuts that he’s been able to have this kind of reign on a franchise like Star Wars. TLJ was provocative, right out of the gate they weren’t afraid to rock the boat. They took some chances but what I can’t stand about this whole thing is the complete disregard for fans that didn’t like the movie. You guys do know what you did right? Lol you have to be able to accept the backlash, don’t pretend it isn’t there. They are just going to make what ever movie they want. They should just hire Paul Thomas Anderson to make a Star Wars movie, at this point why not?

 

Richard Rushfield in The Ankler report has revealed a rumor that Kennedy may be out by September. "The talk out there is of a September changing of the guards. We'll see."

 

Changing of the guards may not mean changing of the commander.

 

RJ is a genius and made a masterpiece... why can't you believe that he put that up in 2003 with the foresight to his SW movie and that fans would feel divided about it? His genius had many "gotcha's" in TLJ, this may just be the final one.

 

When tickets went on sale for Solo I noted that there were a lot of seats available and this didn't bode well. The counter to this was, that was just a local phenomena and then there were threads talking about how Solo out paced advanced ticket sales (or some other category) of Black Panther. It seemed like every obfuscation every excuse was elevated to avoid what seemed patently obvious to most of us. No matter how often we said, "there's a problem, tickets aren't selling, I was in the theater and it was empty" it wasn't heeded.

And now here we are, Solo bombed, we said it was in trouble, and no one wanted to hear it. But what folks didn't want to hear turned out to be the truth. What if we've been telling the truth about TLJ also? I know folks can lean on box office sales to avoid acknowledging the truth but it is there, just like it was there when we said that Solo was going to face trouble at the box office. Anyone ready to reconsider their position that maybe TLJ is a problem and that it was successful due to TFA's coat tails, not due to the merit of the story or due to embrace by fans?

 

There is clearly a lot of denial.

Websites scores are rigged, a few people are creating multiple accounts ... People can't be pleased, why do you need a story when you can milk an alien ? Yes, this movie is terrible but the other were terrible too, you have to look at it like if you were 5 years old ...

It was just a bad movie, that's it.

 

Why is this so important to convince everybody, that TLJ is bad?

 

Why is it so important to convince everybody that TLJ is not bad?

With regard to TLJ's impact on Solo, I think it's negative effect is simply inescapable. Sure, there are several other contributing factors like marketing but there just seems to be a general refusal to acknowledge that those who viewed TLJ dimly have stayed away. I literally don't know anybody who has seen Solo other than myself. Obviously the number of people I know is a mere microcosm of the population but I think it is very telling. There is a problem when the fan ase has become as divided as it is.

I personally hope that Episode IX is a great movie and that the SW fans that TLJ lost are brought back on board.

 

That doesn't answer my question.

 

why did you need to be right? why did you need to make us hear that Solo would 'bomb'.

whatever you've been saying about TLJ.. there is no 'truth', there is opinion.

why does anybody need to? what's with the fixation of being bloody right or wrong about something?

it's a movie. lot's of people liked it, and lots of people didn't. i'm ok with that.. i can live with knowing people disagree with me, why can't everyone else?

i really hope that is made up rubbish.

for her birthday yesterday she was treated with a lovely birthday tweet from Star Wars.com followed up by replies to the tune of "I hope you get cancer for your birthday".

She has produced 4 Star Wars movies and i enjoyed them all.. in my eyes she can do no wrong. in my eyes.. she is Star Wars.

the second most successful producer of ALL TIME.

and this thread is full of messages about getting rid of her.. that it's all her fault.
where does that end? with messages from idiots saying they hope she gets cancer.

i'm ashamed to call myself a 'fan' some days.

why does there have to be a lot of 'denial' - why isn't it alright for us all to have a different opinion?

it wasn't a bad movie, and it wasn't a great movie.. we have our own opinions of the movie. I loved it, but that doesn't make it a great movie, and that doesn't mean i have to push my opinion on others and make them agree with me.

ya know.. i honestly don't think it's about TLJ anymore.

everyone has forgotten how to be polite and respectful on a forum.. everyone has forgotten how to respect the opinion of others.
every conversation is a tug of war to get the other person to admit they are wrong.

'in my opinion' and 'agree to disagree' seem to be a thing of the past.

 

This still going?

@Maximus : Always a pleasure to read your level headed-ness and always nice to converse with you, even with our polar opposite opinions. I applaud you.

 

level headed-ness or just early morning moaning? i think it's somewhere in between

it certainly does prove that ppl with polar opposite opinions can get on just fine.. become good friends even.

 

well it kind of does, because it's exactly the same reason why people argue so strongly that it's a good film.

 

I finally got a stance, I'm polite with polite people and I'm not with rude people. Once again, yesterday, we had a couple of people coming here to taunt, mock, even here in this subforum.

How many threads there is like : Solo scores are rigged, TLJ scores are rigged, haters are sexists etc ...

Once again, I'm sorry but you got no haters on the thread for people who loved the movie but maybe they have to come here to discuss because nobody is coming in their thread.

 

Good job fam!