Was Luke's character assassinated in TLJ?

Which perfectly clarifies why he left the map behind.

Luke wanted peeps to find him so he could die. lol

 

..........................I think I'm done.

 

Yes, saving the entire freakin' galaxy no doubt goes a long way towards damaging one's self-confidence.

 

Yeah no big whoop. Suck it up Luke. All you did is unleash an evil nephew on the galaxy whose power and ambition pretty much guarantee he will be party to the death of billions of people not unlike the grand father he wishes he could surpass in evil. Yeah its just a minor hit to his self confidence. Nothing to do with multiple students murdered or leaving to join space fascists to destroy democracy in the galaxy.

The utter tone deaf over simplification of the story is breathtaking. You have achieved the sublime in your hyperbole.

 

To answer the question directly, yes. The Kylo scene was so out-of-character, it's just mind-bogglingly, stupefyingly, horrifically bad.

I can accept that Luke felt like a complete failure and went into hiding. Luke always did have his dad's moodiness, and a self-deprecating quality with a real depth of feeling. He would react differently from Obi-wan and Yoda for that reason. Also, what happened to him was far more personal than the fall of the Jedi Temple & the Republic, as terrible as all that was.

But then there was the death by a thousand cuts. A bunch of little tiny things that added up to a character that was not anything like the Luke we saw in the OT.

Luke was always serious, the straight man to Han's & Leah's barbs and jokes. His humble character wouldn't allow the flippant actions and sarcasm, qualities which tend to emanate from a person who has more of an ego. Sure, he gained a lot of confidence in his role as a Jedi, but I can't see him with the personal arrogance requisite to flick dust off his shoulder at Kylo in the middle of one of the most serious scenes in the movie. He was a completely different person (and not a very nice person).

I could see none of the young Luke in him, until the last scene.

 

Yes sir.

 

It’s a lot different for Luke. It’s his sisters son. Students that he recruited got killed. Luke wasn’t like Obi-Wan who was brought up without attachments. Luke was a sensitive guy and this broke him.

 

None of that was his fault. It is you rewriting the character. Having people around you die is natural. Causing the death of innocents because you felt like you had to kill your nephew in order to stop him from becoming a monster is totally different. Especially because you didn’t kill him and he became that monster right in front of your eyes.

 

Ok agree to disagree. What’s your point here?

Look, it’s getting very old to read thread after thread of people that hated Luke’s character in TLJ. If you didn’t get it or didn’t like it, fine. But stop trying to convince everyone else to agree with you.

 

That's because he wasn't young Luke.
He was old Luke.

Obi-Wan flat out tried to kill his best friend and padawan.
Then he tucked tail and ran and hide on a desert planet while waiting for the "right time" to train Luke.

What about THAT fits with the Obi-Wan from the PT up to the point of the battle....

 

I'm not saying that Luke shouldn't have changed- of course he should have. But personality changes aren't random. Luke's changes don't make any sense given the context of his original personality.

 

Yoda and Obi Wan, went into exile not because they gave up. Yoda to ponder the failings of the Jedi order. Obi Wan to watch over from afar and protect young Luke if need be. They did not want Vadar to sense the presence of Skywalker Jedi kids getting trained. There was no rebel alliance when they went into hiding. It was Obi Wan and Yoda alone against the empire. They could not win and they knew it.

They let time to pass and the thought of Vadars offspring to have survived be forgotten.

This is all explained in ROTS with bits of pieces here and there in the OT when told to Luke as he needed to know.

Found out his friends where being tortured because the emperor wanted him, found out daddy was the devil, had daddy chop his hand off, hand to fight daddy again, etc etc etc.

But he catches Kylo thinking some bad things, thinks about killing him, then runs off to die on Jedi Island Resort. Kylos own mother doesn't seem to bothered about the fact she gave birth to a monster. But old uncle Luke is distraught about it.

Even in TFA awakens neither Han or Leia seem to be really all that upset about raising a mass murderer. Leia even makes the excuse it was Snoke all along.

But Uncle Luke takes it to heart.....He
is distraught and doesn't mind that the galaxy will be basically enslaved because he is all of a sudden is manic depressive.

 

When Yoda and Obi Wan chose to give up there were more than enough Jedi left to secretly regroup and go against Vader and Palps... Instead, they left them helpless to be slaughtered by Vader...

When Luke did it, there was nothing at all...

 

Nothing about it was random. Luke had never experienced real failure before and had no idea how to cope with it. He was "Luke Skywalker...a legend."
He was going to save the galaxy. Be the infallible one. And prevent the dark side from winning...not help create it.

How else was he supposed to feel? He felt shame. Enormous amounts of shame. Luke admits to the hubris. It's a Jedi trademark. It's how they all missed Palpatine. It's how they let Anakin fall to the dark.